ep.10 on beauty and how it relates to our spirituality

ep. 10 | Beauty and How It Relates to Our Spirituality with Kelly Stuckey

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the joy of chatting with Kelly Stuckey about beauty and how it relates to our spirituality. Kelly is a follower of Christ, wife to Zach, momma to Everett, small business owner, beauty industry educator, hairdresser, and makeup artist. She recently made the transition from doing hair full-time to being a mom and focusing on the growth and leadership of her team at Crown Beauty Bar. Prior to having her son, Everett, Kelly and Zac struggled with infertility. Kelly shares how her view of beauty expanded when they found out that Everett has the most common form of dwarfism, Achondroplasia. This journey changed her perspective on beauty and taught her to accept that all people are made in the image of God.

As someone who tends to take things too seriously, my lightbulb moment with Kelly happened towards the end of our interview when she said that experiencing beauty should be fun! Duh! I can’t believe I didn’t think of that myself. I hope ya’ll find our conversation as enjoyable as I did. As mentioned, you can find out how to connect with Kelly at the links below. Be sure to drop by her social media accounts, Crown Beauty Bar or Crown Uptown in Fayetteville to let her know what you learned from her today!

  1. Can you share with us a little about who you are, your family, and the story behind Crown Beauty Bar?

  2. How have your thoughts on beauty evolved over the years?

  3. Why do you think we’re drawn to physical beauty? On the flip side, why do some people have an aversion to pursuing physical beauty?

  4. Is there a distinction between outward and inward beauty?

  5. What are some ways we can express our inner beauty outwardly?

  6. How do you pursue physical beauty without obsessing over it?

  7. When do you know that your desire for beauty is becoming vain? Are there signs we should be on the lookout for? How far is too far with beauty routines?

  8. How do you accept the things you can’t change (physically) and balance the cost and effort of changing the things you can?


Three questions I ask every guest

  1. What are your top three beauty products/tips/tricks/people to follow/etc?

  2. What are your 3 simple joys?

  3. As a journeywoman, who is the most impactful person in your own journey with Jesus?


Note Worthy Quotes

“My view of myself changed entirely because I started seeing myself through God’s eyes and not through the world’s eyes.”

“For the longest time my platform was building a brand and all of a sudden my identity grew. I wasn’t just Kelly, follower of Christ, wife to Zac, Crown Beauty owner. I am now a mother.”

“Inner beauty is what makes outer beauty shine."

“So many people are beautiful, but if they can’t operate in kindness, their beauty is dead. There’s no life behind it. True beauty contains life.”

“There are no accidents.”

“Everett changed my life. When I think of beauty, it’s not the way I used to think about it. If you asked me that question five years ago I would tell you that beauty has symmetry, balance, the right mix of colors, or whatever. Now when I see beauty it’s something that’s flourishing in it’s own element in how it was made. That’s what I think of when I think of beauty now.”

“We need to ask ourselves how we define beauty. If that definition comes from a place of pleasing others, pleasing society, meeting societal pressures, matching up to bloggers, or to people we see on Instagram, I would encourage us to take a step back and maybe not look at it for awhile. Really press into asking, ‘Okay, God, how do you see me?’”

“If the pursuit of physical beauty starts to deplete your time and resources, that’s a sign that you may need to reevaluate the importance you’re placing on it.”

“Gratitude and thinking about our health are the two things that we can practice to find peace over the things about ourselves that we can’t change.”

“There are a lot of scriptures that address physical beauty. I don’t take those lightly at all. However, I do think that physical beauty is something that God made and that it’s a way to attract people not just in their physical look, but that it can attract them to him.”

“I think that beauty should be fun! It should create joy. It doesn’t need to be too serious. For some who have an aversion to all things physical, maybe they’re taking it too seriously.”


Kelly's Resources for Beauty

The Magic Mit 

Hydro Peptide Cleanser

Hair Moisturizer

Tip for mamas: fix your hair at night instead of in the morning. Smaller curls can be done with a smaller curling iron that will brush into looser waves in the morning.


Kelly's Simple Joys

Having a bedtime routine

Apple watch synched to scroll through her photo album favorites

Cuddling with her English Bulldog named Butters


Connect with Kelly



Episode 10 of the Journeywomen podcast is sponsored by White Pepper Ink, a custom-scripting canvas and wood company founded by Amanda Nicholson. You can find her work on Instagram and Facebook @whitepepperink. To custom order, email Amanda at whitepepperink@gmail.com and if you mention hearing about the shop on the Journeywomen podcast, you will get 10% off a canvas of your choice if you order through the second week of August. 

ep.09 on mentoring

ep. 09 | Mentoring with Susie Davis

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with Susie Davis. Susie is an author, encourager and mentor. Every day, she wakes up and writes out things in her moleskin journals. And every day, she ends up somewhere on social media with words hoping to encourage us to love God more. The other thing that she can’t seem to escape is a God-given desire to reach out to the young women around her. She calls them her ‘dear daughters,’ which is also the name of her incredibly helpful podcast. Before our interview I didn’t personally know Susie, but she has mentored me from afar via her podcast for about a year. I’ve had some incredible chats with other mentors and friends on the show, but this one tops the chart as my favorite conversation to date! 

The phrase, “The difference between reality and expectation is misery,” that Susie shared has served me well since we recorded this show. I hope you guys have lots of other truth nuggets to pocket after listening to our conversation! As mentioned, you can find out how to connect with Susie at the links below. Be sure to drop by and let her know what you learned from listening to her responses to the questions below.

  1. Susie, for those who aren’t familiar with your writing, Dear Daughters or Austin Christian Fellowship can you explain a little bit about who you are and what you do?
  2. You’ve had such an influence on my life from afar. This is something that I’ve been wrestling through/processing as someone who is also putting themselves out there online. Can mentoring happen over the Internet? What are the potential pitfalls of seeking mentorship online or at a distance? What is the value in doing life-on-life relationships with other women in the body of Christ? 
  3. I want to speak about this as respectfully as possible, but I feel like I can see a crisis in our churches of younger women desiring to be discipled by older women, but not being able to really find older women who are willing to, or maybe it’s not an issue of willingness, but more-so a fear of inadequacy, to spiritually invest in the lives of younger women. Can you speak to those of us who are younger and help us know how to encourage older women that they have so much to offer? And can you speak to the older woman who might desire to pour out, but doesn’t know where to start?
  4. What are the most important elements of mentoring? 
  5. For someone who hasn't ever been discipled or made disciples, how would you suggest they begin learning/developing those tools?
  6. Do you have any go-to lessons that you walk through with your disciples? If so, what are they? 
  7. I loved the podcast you recorded with your daughter about healthy boundaries. Can we go there? I’d love to hear about how you intentionally set boundaries with your daughters in your relationships, especially when they left for college and were married? How did the dynamics of your relationship change? And your role as their primary source of discipleship?
  8. On the flip side, what kind of boundaries have you had to set personally as a disciple-maker? (In regard to time, relational energy, etc.) 
  9. How do you move forward, not paralyzed in fear, when you have failed a disciple?
  10. How has discipleship changed you personally (both in being a mentor and in being mentored)? 


Three Questions I ask Every Guest

1.  What 3 resources would you recommend for someone wanting to develop as a disciple or as a mentor? (This could be a recommended experience, book, podcast, conference, behavior, etc)

2.   What are 3 of your simple joys?

3.   Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus? 


Note Worthy Quotes

“The difference between reality and expectation is misery.”

“In-between reality and expectation is just misery. If we have the expectation that our lives will always be beautiful, pleasant, and positive, we will be miserable. We need to live in reality. Reality is that there are beautiful things in your life right now. And there are also equally difficult things in your life right now. And that is your one, beautiful life with Jesus.”

“We live in the lopsided favor of God. As his dear daughter, it is my responsibility and my joy to reflect on those things in my life. That’s really where I try to live, on the Good News side of things. Does that mean that I don’t have dark days? No. Will you hear about that in different places like my church, small group, or around my table? You’ll hear about the more intimate details of my life in those spaces more than in my blog post or on my Instagram feed. That makes sense, because you’re taking a step towards intimacy."

“The best tool for discipleship that I’ve found is a question.”

“Discipleship, mentorship, whatever you want to call it, is just meeting with someone and asking a question, then listening with curiosity and as much empathy and creativity as you can muster. Genuinely listen to another person and then ask another question. Let the mentee discover what God is saying in their life. It’s not so much me speaking into another person, but me asking questions and letting them see where they are with him.” 

Examples of questions Susie uses in discipleship:’
“What’s your God story?”
“What was your first impression of God?”
“What was the last time you felt like you heard from God?”

“Asking questions is like a dance. If the music is too fast, slow it down. If it’s too slow, get something a little more upbeat on.”

Susie’s elements of discipleship: question asking, script-less listening, and as the leader, making sure that the conversation doesn’t stall out in a lie or in a place of desolation. 

“Will (Susie’s husband) always tells me that you have to leave 5-10% open for the Holy Spirit. I can’t plan notes for the entire time I’m speaking. I need to plan less and trust that the Holy Spirit will speak to me and that he’ll speak what needs to be spoken. I’m not center stage! God is. When God is center stage we’ve got to improv. We may have an idea of the way a night is going to go and the script we’ll use, but the truth is that it’s like turning the lights on on stage, inviting the actors to come on, and then watching the dialogue change, knowing that God is the director the entire time. Trust that he is directing the conversation through you and through the way someone answers.”

For someone who wants to be discipled: “Look where you live. This usually means you should find someone in your local church. Start asking God to give you eyes to see who around you might be someone that you can go to coffee with, go on a walk with, or something like that. They don’t have to be like 20 years older than you, they can be 5 years older than you, they can be like a big sister to you.” 

“God seems to choose the curriculum for me. I can choose an area of study, but very often God has a curriculum that I am unaware of. I come into that little classroom and I have no idea what he’s up to. He’s very faithful to be clear in his teaching with me. He’s very persistent and patient, like the best kind of teacher you could ever ask for.”

“If you are wanting to make disciples, please, please… just look around. There are so many heartbreak stories going on right now. You don’t have to have your own daughter to help a daughter. You don’t have to be that person’s mother in order to mother spiritually. There are a lot of women who need spiritual mentoring and who need mothering… They don’t need someone who is perfect, but available.” 

“When I meet with a girl, I don’t expect her to meet my needs. In the same way I don’t expect my daughters to meet my needs when I meet with them.” 

“I’ve felt the pressure with my own kids trying to be the perfect mom. The grace of it all is that I DID screw up and that we still have a relationship. It doesn’t even stop when they’re adults! Now I have blessed in-laws. So guess what? I had a conversation with all of them and said, ‘I love you all, I know I’ll mess up, and I’m asking for us to be as authentic as we can be with each other. We’ll be in counseling if we need to be and we will talk about things. You just need to tell me.’ That all applies to a discipleship relationship. Will I mess up? Yes! Will I say the wrong thing or encourage them to do the wrong thing? Possibly! Every time I meet with a girl I say to them, “If none of this makes sense, toss it out. If you leave my house and none of it makes sense, please don’t follow my advice. I trust God in you to supersede anything I’ve said. The Holy Spirit is your teacher. You have to go in knowing that you, as the disciple maker, are broken and messed up, so there’s a real strong chance that you will do something to hurt your disciple, event though it’s never your intention.” 

“We need to live in reality, because in between reality and expectation is misery.” 

“I think about boundaries because my life goal is to love the Lord God with all my heart, soul, mind and strength, and guess what? That’s what I want for my family too… Mothering is just releasing and starting over in every season. Hopefully it’s transferring wisdom to one segment of your relationship to the next. With my girls and my son, the reality is that their relationship with their spouses is supposed to supersede their relationship with me and their love for me.” 


Susie’s Resources for Discipleship

Dear Daughters Podcast Episode with Emily on Mother-Daughter Relationships

The Bible

Dallas Willard’s Books

Things to deepen your personal growth

Being around truth-telling people

Podcasts like Dear Daughters


Susie’s Simple Joy’s


Black cup of coffee with one egg

Pink geraniums

Watching the hummingbirds on the salvia

Having a happy hour with a girlfriend

Her kids


Connect with Susie




Episode 09 of the Journeywomen podcast is sponsored by White Pepper Ink, a custom-scripting canvas and wood company founded by Amanda Nicholson.You can find her work on Instagram and Facebook @whitepepperink. To custom order, email Amanda at whitepepperink@gmail.com and if you mention hearing about the shop on the Journeywomen podcast, you will get 10% off a canvas of your choice if you order through the second week of August. 



ep.08 on grief

ep. 08 | Grief with René Bleakley

Today I’m interviewing René Bleakley, a college mentor from my time at the University of Arkansas. René is originally from South Carolina. She married her high school sweetheart, Gage, almost 44 years ago. They live near their son and his family in the Ft Bragg, North Carolina area. René says the best part of her life is the fact that she’s Mimi to three grandsons. She loves gardening, cooking, going to the beach and good coffee. I invited René to be on the show to discuss the topic of grief, as she lost her daughter in a car accident 21 years ago. We talked about her own process of grieving and she answered a lot of questions I had about how to come alongside someone who has experienced a trauma or crisis. I think you’ll find our conversation impactful and helpful. 

I’m so grateful for this conversation. One of my favorite things that René shared is to feel all the feels until they aren’t there anymore. That really encouraged me to press into grief with my friends who are experiencing hardship. Thanks so much for listening to the show. All of your feedback has been so encouraging! The most helpful thing you can do is to share the Journeywomen podcast with a friend. Send them over to Instagram to find me @hunterbeless or @journeywomenpodcast. I’m also on Twitter, Facebook, and of course, the show notes can be found at www.hunterbeless.com. I cannot wait to be with you all again next Monday! 

  1. Can you share with us a little about your own experience with grief?
  2. I’ve heard there are stages to grief. What did that process look like for you?
  3. Is grief something you still experience today? If so, how?
  4. What do you look back on and feel like you did well in the grieving process? What do you wish you would have done differently? 
  5. What was the most helpful thing you experienced from other believers in your time of grief?
  6. How can we, as the body of Christ, practically come alongside our brothers and sisters who are in a crisis?
  7. What are things you wanted to hear from friends? While I’m sure they weren’t intentional, were there things that people said that came across as hurtful?
  8. How would you encourage someone who is walking through trauma right now? How about someone that underwent a crisis long ago? What's a tender way to communicate care?
  9. What did your relationship with Jesus look like while you were walking through the stages of grief? 
  10. How did walking through crisis and allowing yourself to grieve change you?


Three questions I ask every guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend to someone who is grieving themselves OR walking alongside someone who is in that process?
  2. What are your 3 simple joys?
  3. As a journeywoman, who is the most impactful person in your own journey with Jesus?


Note Worthy Quotes

“It doesn’t help to not feel. Feel what you’re feeling until you don’t feel it anymore.” 

“From the very beginning I knew that He was good, that we could trust Him, and that He loved us. Those three principles stayed in my heart to help me navigate the really hard times when I felt like I was in the valley of the shadow of death. I know beyond my circumstances that God is good, that He is trustworthy, and that He loves me.”

“One of my favorite passages of Scripture is from Lamentations 3. It says, ‘Because of the Lord’s great love, we are not consumed. His mercies are new every morning. Great is Thy faithfulness.’ I would remind myself that He wouldn’t abandon me because He would be true to His Word. I leaned into that regardless of how I was feeling or thinking at the time. I leaned into the truth of who He is and trusted He would uphold me and take care of me.” 

“It’s okay to say, ‘Hey, I’m struggling to know what to do or say to you in the midst of this. If I can do anything for you right now, can I bring you a meal? Can I take you to lunch? Can I just sit on the sofa with you? Maybe we can go for a walk?’ My neighbor would come over once in awhile and we just sat on the sofa and talked. She didn’t try to fix me. I could see tears well up in her eyes, but she didn’t try to offer a solution. She really made my grief journey a lot easier the first year or two just by her presence and willingness to sit and listen to my pain.” 

“It helped that people didn’t forget with Anna’s birthday rolled around, or at Christmas, or Thanksgiving. The first Christmas we had, we asked for help. We asked people to send us memories of Anna. That was the most precious thing we did.” 

“Remembering their birthdays and other special events is very honoring. Even being able to talk about it feels healthy and normal instead of feeling like you’re hiding some part of you.”


René’s Resources on Grief

Grief Share

Experiencing Grief by Dr. H. Norman Wright

A Grief Observed by C.S. Lewis

The Problem of Pain by C.S. Lewis



René’s Simple Joys

Her three grandsons

Talking with others who are grieving 

Anything that reminds her that God has given us creation to enjoy and delight in and how it speaks of His majesty and goodness.

ep.07 on friendship

ep.07 | Friendship with Elizabeth Seifried

Today I’m chatting with my dearest friend, Elizabeth Seifried. Elizabeth is wife to Grant Seifried and mama to two little boys who are less than one year apart, Everett Brooks and Cooper Scott. For that reason alone, she is my hero. She celebrates the little things in life and loves her people deeply. I jokingly say that Elizabeth started discipling me in the ways of friendship our freshman year of college. I genuinely believe there’s no better person to share with us all how to do friendship well. If you enjoy our conversation today, you should download episode 2 of the Journeywomen podcast so that you can hear from another lifelong friend of ours, Sarah Scott Pape, as she shares on the topic of evangelism. Finally, shout out to Sarah’s brother, Jake Scott of Tossing Copper, for letting me use the tunes you hear in the intro. What can I say, it takes a village. Thanks for joining us! If you enjoyed the show, make sure to find me @hunterbeless or @journeywomen podcast on Instagram or Facebook. It’d be amazing if you could take time to write a review so we can connect with other women on their journeys to glorify God!

There are so many things I could say about my chat with Elizabeth, but I think my biggest takeaway was Elizabeth’s encouragement to press into friendship with Jesus. Just like an earthly friend, our relationship with him requires commitment, vulnerability, intentionality, and trust. He is the perfect friend we can all look to as a model for friendship. The best thing is, we have the joy of experiencing that with him today! John tells us that this is eternal life: knowing the only true God and Jesus Christ, whom he has sent. I hope you delight in that today, my friends. Thanks for listening! I’m already looking forward to our time together next week!

1. What is friendship? What’s the Biblical backing for friendship?

2. How does friendship relate to your spirituality? 

3. If you had to give some fundamental pillars of friendship, what would they be? (Maybe something like service, intimacy, devotion, etc)

4. What are some practical ways you can deepen a friendship? (Shared experiences, celebrating one another, serving one another, seeking to know them and be known by them, etc)

5. Before we move on: are there any disclaimers or things to beware of when you’re pursuing deep friendships with other people? 

6. What about friendship transitions? How have your friendships changed in the transitions from high school to college, college to working, working to marriage, marriage to motherhood, etc? 

7. For the married folks: what tips do you have for cultivating friendships with other married couples? 

8. What are some ways that married couples be friends with singles? 

9. On the flip side, what are some ways singles can pursue friendship with married couples? How would you suggest someone who is single pursue you as a friend in your current season as a mother? 

10. How do you handle conflict in friendship?

11. How has friendship, in general (not just ours), changed you?


Three questions I ask every guest

  1. What are your top 3 recommendations for someone who wants to grow in friendship with another person? These can be books, experiences, podcasts, whatever! 
  2. What are your 3 simple joys?
  3. As a journeywoman, who has had the greatest impact in your own journey with Jesus? 


Note Worthy Quotes

Elizabeth’s Five Pillars for Friendship:






*Note that Elizabeth says these can differ for everyone.

“So much about friendship comes down to expectations. I think that even when it comes to commitment, if those expectations are different, that’s where potential conflict arises.” 

“A disappointment is only a failed expectation. If someone finds themselves disappointed by someone’s lack of commitment, it may be that their expectations are simply different.”

“As friendships grow and as shared experiences take place vulnerability will continue to deepen… I think that’s a healthy thing, because guarded hearts in a friendship make it hard to experience growth.” 

“Trust is given, not earned. I think that’s something you offer to someone until they prove they shouldn’t be given it.”

"There are so many ways to deepen a friendship. People long to be cared for. God designed us for relationship. You even say it, ‘Life is a journey we were never meant to walk alone, we all need friends along the way.’ If we are looking to walk in friendship with someone we need to look for ways to show people that we care for them. People need that.” 

“There are experiences that need to be shared, events that need to be celebrated. Service is a huge piece of that. Be a student of your friends. Learn what makes them thrive, crumble, come alive, what annoys them, what things they enjoy. What kind of environments can they dream in? What do they dream about? It’s important to be a learner of your friends. Once you’ve learned those things you can press into them and offer them in a way that shows you care. That’s what we’re all looking for.” 

“If you already have a friendship that you’re looking to deepen, study God’s Word together!”

“Friendship isn’t about being happy. But there is joy in walking with people and in serving people in a way in which you’re seeking their happiness and growth with Jesus. When that’s a focus it takes our eyes off of ourselves and offers a practical way to deepen a friendship.” 

“Friendship in it’s perfect form is about walking with people as they walk towards Jesus. If we’re made for community and God has designed us to walk alongside other people, yet while we’re here we can spur each other on to look more like Jesus, isn’t that what we’re doing here?” 

“The Gospel is offensive. It’s offensive to our humanness. Our humanness is not selfless. It’s selfish. If I continue to walk in myself, which I do, because I’m a fallen person, yes, saved by grace and thankful for that, but I need people to confront me.”

“The biggest part of transitioning seasons in friendship is to put forth effort to understand and communicate care on both sides.” 

“Ask God for a friend. And if you’re in a season of major loneliness, God can be a really precious friend. His faithfulness beat’s anybody’s faithfulness. His intentionally beats anybody’s on earth. The way he gives surprises, the way he speaks ‘Hey, I love you and you’re not alone,’ he does that in ways that humans cannot. That sounds so cheesy, but I’ve seen God be a very near and dear confidant and counselor in seasons where I’ve felt very isolated. He’s good at that and he knows what we need better than another person can. Ask him to show you the way he can personally love you. And ask him for a friend. And if you’ve been asking for a friend for years, don’t stop.” 


Elizabeth’s Resources for Friendship

Think of 3 people who you would consider your closest friends and physically make a list of why and how they are a good friend to you. Compare them with one another. You’ll probably see the themes or pillars that you value in friendship. Go and model that selflessly and without reciprocation. You’ll be surprised how much more engaged in friendship you’ll become because you’re actively pursuing other people.

Practice being selfless and seeking out other people in that way, but by doing that through what you value. Put yourself in a place who aren’t exactly like you and make a friend. Go into that situation with the expectation of asking all the questions, but not being asked anything in return.

Learn to experience the highs and lows with people. 


Elizabeth’s Simple Joys

Clean sheets and shaved legs

A Saturday morning with her people

Watching her oldest, Everett, learn to walk 


connect with ELIZABETH

ep.06 on relating to your emotions

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ep.06 | Relating to Your Emotions

with Amy Waters


On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I’m interviewing Amy Waters, a Licensed Professional Counselor, Women’s Bible Study leader, disciple maker, and self-proclaimed theology junkie.  Amy spent nearly 10 years on staff at Pine Cove as a Conference Director and it was there that God gave her a passion for ministering to women and families.  She earned a Masters in Marriage and Family Counseling from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in 2011 and is currently counseling at the Alethia Counseling Center in Tyler, TX.  

Amy is married to Neil Waters and mommy to 4 year old Sam and 2 year old Elle (pronounced EL, like the letter).  Amy and Neil love to spend time working on home projects, camping, playing Frisbee, reading out loud to each other, and these days trying to catch sleep wherever they can find it.  When she’s not doing that, Amy can be found posting ridiculously cute pictures of their children on social media or pretending like she’s a chef in the Chopped kitchen. Both things I can attest to! 

Amy and I are discussing how we as women can relate to our emotions. I’ve been planning this interview since the idea for the Journeywomen podcast was born many months ago. To be honest, I felt really awkward coming off of this recording, but I listened to Amy and I’s conversation while editing I realized that my own discomfort stemmed from the fact that I personally struggle to relate to my emotions. Brooks and I live in a culture where emotion isn’t admonished and I think I’m a little out of touch with my emotions these days. My chat with Amy was enlightening, helpful, and challenging. I hope it’s as helpful for you as it was for me!

I want to say a few thank you’s: first of all, thank you for all of your positive reviews! I’ve been reading every single DM, email, and text from ya’ll and I so appreciate the feedback. At one point last week Journeywomen was the third podcast in the Christian category on iTunes! The only explanation is that God’s showing off AND ya’ll are super gracious. Thanks for sharing it with friends! If you haven’t taken time to leave a review, please do! 

Last but not least, a huge thanks to Jake Scott of Tossing Copper for letting me use the tunes you hear in the intro background! Download Dancing in the Dawn on iTunes for your perfect windows-down, hair blowing in the wind, summer jam. 

Amy and I cover the following questions in our conversation on relating to your emotions:

1. What are emotions? Why do you think God gave them to us?

2. Is there any distinction between good/bad emotions? Would there ever be a reason to try not to feel a certain way?

3. Why is it important for us to learn to appropriately relate to our emotions?

4. Scripture says the heart is deceitful above all else. Does that mean we can't ever trust our emotions? When can we trust them??

5. How can we process through emotions when they feel overwhelming?

6. How can we be gracious with those who feel more intensely than we might feel?

7. If you could give someone steps by which to process through emotions, what would it be??

8. What if we're struggling to feel? Like, we don't feel at all? Is that bad?

9. What are good boundaries regarding sharing and processing emotions with our spouses and friends? What indications might we look for when we’ve crossed over the line and encouraged our brothers or sisters to sin?

10. How can we help our kids relate to their emotions?


Three questions I ask every guest

1. What are your top 3 resources for those learning to relate to their emotions?

2. What are your three simple joys?

3. Who is the most influential person in your own journey with Jesus? 


Note Worthy Quotes

“Being emotional doesn’t necessarily have to be a bad thing. As in all things that God’s given us, what we do with emotions is where it becomes a matter of sin or not sin.” 

“Emotions are a relational vehicle. When we have emotions it has to do with how we experience something: our body’s response to something and how we express that. It’s almost always connected to how we’re relating to ourself, to God, or to other people. So, emotions can cause a lot of relational trouble for people. Especially when you have two people experiencing the same event in different ways. Finding a way to have unity there can be very difficult. For the person who is more deeply driven by emotion, they can find themselves being on a ride. And the people who love that person may feel like they’re being taken on a ride too.” 

“The heart is deceitful. And part of that is because we are selfish creatures. When we experience the world and the way we respond to that and how we express that is often going to be completely connected to the self. It’s very easy to be selfish with our emotions, but they can’t be 100% bad. God emotes. We are made in his image we are made made to reflect back to him and even God himself emotes and using emotional language to relate to us.”

“Emotion is morally neutral. In fact, God gives them to us and they can be a vehicle for reflecting God’s image back to him. This is a little bit of what God is like. But we’re sinful, so we don’t do that perfectly. It can also become a place where we’re selfish, sinful, misunderstanding, or abusive. As believers, we can’t throw out the baby with the bath water saying, ‘Because I’ve entered into sin through the vehicle of emotion, I’m not going to emote anymore.’ Rather, we have to say, ‘God gave me emotion and he also feels emotions, so how can I use emotion to glorify God and how can I relate to my emotions in such a way that exercises faith?’”

“We have to remember, there’s not a revolution or revival or anything that hasn’t happened with great passion. People don’t lay down their lives where they feel nothing.” 

“We live out the world in relationship to ourselves, in relationship to other people, and in relationship to God. To think our emotions are only in isolation is very naive. The way we feel is going to come into play when we relate to God and it’s going to come into play when we relate to other people. All my married girls say, ‘Amen?!’” 

“I need to learn to relate to my emotions because I can’t worship without them. That’s part of what worship is. Of course we worship in Truth; we don’t check our brains at the door, but how could I worship without some level of emotion?” 

“To not express emotions doesn’t mean I don’t have them.” 

“Give yourself time to contemplate and identify your emotions. Confess them, pour out your heart out to God and to trusted, believing friends. There is an element of confession with our emotions that is healthy and good. We also need to make sure our emotions are being led by the Truth. When you read through 1 Peter you see the idea of being sober-minded… How do I let Truth lead my emotions rather than letting my emotions lead the Truth?” 

Amy’s ABC’s of emotions:

A - Activator: an event
B - Belief: what you believe about the event
C - Consequence: what do I feel and what is the behavioral response
D - Dealing —> rather than dealing search out whether or not the belief is true

“There seems to be this idea that I can tell my heart what to feel. That takes discipline and work, especially for the person just by wiring that is more emotional than logical.” 

“We want to be very careful to not let even a righteous anger be a vehicle for sin.” 

Regarding parenting: “Listen first, hear first, empathize first, then we have permission to teach, guide, and train. As parents we’re so worried about teaching and training them that we often forget to empathize with them. We don’t want to do one at the exclusion of the other. We don’t want to become the parent who only relates and doesn’t teach, train, or guide. This is another area where grace must abound. If I have a hard time knowing how to engage with my own emotions, how can I expect my four, five or six year old to know how to do that?”

Regarding parenting:“Empathy doesn’t mean we need to change our direction.”

“Allow grace and truth to infiltrate even this area (relating to your emotions) of your life. And to remember too that this is a journey. You’re not the same woman today that you were ten years ago. And ten years from now you’ll look back and see where God has brought you. So, you don’t have to fix all the things right now.” 


Amy’s Resources

Every Woman’s Battle by Shannon Ethredge

Lies Women Believe and the Truth That Sets Them Free by Nancy Lee DeMoss

When the Darkness Doesn’t Lift How to Fight for Joy by John Piper

A Grief Observed by C.S. Lewis

The Psalms


Amy’s Simple Joys

Cooking in the her exceptionally well crafted kitchen (shout out to Neil!)

A cup of coffee with a good friend

Playing with her babies


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ep.05 on discipleship

ep.05 | Discipleship with Katelyn Sullins

Today I’m interviewing my friend Katelyn Sullins on the topic of discipleship. Katelyn is a pursuer of delight, cultivating reflections of the God in whom it is found. She lives in Tyler, TX with her husband, Tyler, who is a counselor and her precious dog, River. Katelyn is the current Forge Women’s director at Pine Cove. I’ve watched her make disciples in a variety of contexts and know that we all have a lot to learn from her. This is one of my favorite topics in all the world and I can't wait to share our chat with you today! As always, thanks for listening! 

I get so fired up talking about discipleship and have absolutely experienced what Katelyn was talking about when she said that discipleship is a mutual transformation. I left this conversation inspired to continue pursuing discipleship relationships both as a disciple and disciple maker. If you want to learn more from Katelyn, be sure to follow her on social media at the handles listed in the show notes. 

On another note, ya’ll blew me away with your receptivity to the launch last week! Thank you for submitting reviews and sharing the show with friends. That’s truly the most helpful thing you can do to help the Journeywomen Podcast! I really appreciate it. Looking forward to being with you guys again next Monday! Follow along throughout the week @journeywomenpodcast on Facebook or Instagram. See you guys next week! 

1.    Tell us about your job and how it enables you to make disciples. 

2.    Before we get any further -- what is discipleship? 

3.    When were you introduced to the idea of making disciples? What has been your most potent lesson in disciple making? (Whether that's from having been discipled yourself, or from practicing making disciples.)

 4.    Is there a difference between formal discipleship and general discipleship? Is it important for us to submit ourselves to a mentor/disciple/maker? Why? Or why not? 

 5.    Are there any prerequisites for a disciple maker? Would you suggest knowing the mentor/mentee for awhile before defining your relationship?

 6.    Do you have any go-to lessons that you're trying to walk through with your disciples?

 7.    What are the most important elements of discipleship? 

8.    What are some of your favorite tools for discipleship? 

9.    For someone who hasn't ever been discipled or made disciples, how would you suggest they begin learning/developing those tools?

10.    How has discipleship changed you?


3 Questions I ask every guest:

1.    What are your top 3 discipleship resources? (IG accounts, books, groups, podcasts, whatever!)

2.    What are 3 of your simple joys?

3.    Who has had the biggest influence in your own journey with Jesus?


Quote Worthy Notes:

"Discipleship is a relationship with a learner who is following to be like his leader. Not just to know what his leader knows, but to be as his leader is. For us, discipleship to Jesus is a direct adherence to the person of Christ in as many ways as you can."

"James K. Smith: “A re-habituation of loves.” As we learn to follow Christ in a way that makes us like him, we are going to have to love with he loves. And in order to actually do that, I’m going too have to change my habits and what I’m actually doing."

"I was exposed to discipleship before I knew what it actually was. All of life we are looking to people to follow and imitate. We have no idea that as we follow someone that we might become like them. We were created to be in intimate community with one another. It makes sense that the Lord called us to do things together and to make disciples because it’s within our design to do things together and to imitate others."

"I remember things my parents did all growing up that were them taking really teachable moments that could have been preached to anyone in that position, but because they knew me, they used that specific moment to direct my heart towards Christ."

"If you ask me, 'What are the most important things in disciple-making?' I would say, 'Stop. Are you following Christ? What are you doing in your life to make sure you’re completely consumed by the affection of what Jesus has done for you on your behalf on the cross. THEN we can talk about what it looks like moving forward.'"

"Discipleship is a mutual transformation, absolutely."

"How do you know when you’re ready to make a disciple? Do you follow Jesus? If so, you’re ready to make a disciple."

"In order to make a disciple, you need to be a disciple your self. That’s it."

"In terms of principle lessons that are go-to’s when you’re making a disciple, those evolve and change, because you’re making disciples as a product of what it looks like for you to follow Christ. So the more you’re learning, the more you’re changing in what you’re pouring out."

"The first three times I’m meeting with a girl, we’ll do nothing but get to know each other. It’ll look like me exploring her for as much as I can possibly unfold. I want to know about her family, her heritage, where she came from, what the home she grew up in was like. That tells me so much about her. I want to know what other people in her family are like. I ask about her passions, her hopes, her dreams, her heartbreaks. I don’t even have a list, but as much as you can explore a person to simply get to know them as a best friend, because that builds relational capital in order for you to move forward where they even have a reason to listen to your feedback, because they have to know that you care. That’s where I start."

"What is that I personally need to see about myself that’s hindering me from following the Lord? The first go-to lesson is to somehow help them understand their design and who the Lord made them to be. Anything that can get us to see what makes their heart beat fast, what they love and what they hate, so that I can take all that, wrap it up in a pretty bow and present it to them in the form of feedback and present it to them." 

"Along with talking about identity, the second pillar would be faith or fear. Show me you’re afraid of and I will show you the things that you worship. Our life is ordered behind keeping whatever it is that gives us that security. That has become our god. So much of our behavior is directed at and towards that. Knowing this will help us deconstruct a person and get down to the bare bones."

"For someone who is insecure about making disciples: Discipleship is a lifelong process. I hope that I am continually hit in the face with “Man, I didn’t know that about myself!” or “I knew that and I thought I was over it, but here I am right back again.” Give yourself the time and the grace to not know, understand, or be perfect. If you’re making disciples that’s what they need to see in their disciple-maker. That is is not about how you have it all together or that you understand this. They need to see what it’s like to follow Jesus in the midst of confusion and trust the he is enough regardless of how we can explain our theology of obedience. One: just take a chill pill and give yourself some time and two: there are a lot of great resources available to you."

"My most life altering lessons had less to do with what they were doing or teaching, but how they were leading me."

"Discipleship changed me because it revealed the massive mountain that is and was my sin. And at the same time, it made that sin look so small in the face of the Lord’s grace and love because of his massive plan to rescue his people." 


Katelyn's Recommended Resources

The Handbook to Prayer Kenneth Boa

Reading the Gospels: look to Jesus as the ultimate disciple-maker and to the disciples for examples of ourselves

The Great Omission by Dallas Willard

The Cost of Discipleship by Dietrich Bonhoeffer

You are What You Love by James K.A. Smith


Katelyn’s Simple Joys

Clear American Sparkling Water

A Proper Theology of Sex (we’ll have to have Katelyn back on the show to discuss this topic!)

Hunter’s Grandma’s Bread Starter/Making Bread


Connect with Katelyn

ep.04 on bible study

ep.04 | Bible Study with Amy Ward

Today I’m chatting with Amy Ward, an empty nester, cancer survivor, writer, professional crafter and—today’s focus—a lover of truth and teacher of the Bible! Amy and her husband live in Columbus, GA, which is where I connected with her a few of years back. She taught me so much about studying the Bible and how to communicate it’s truths to other women! I could not be more excited to share our conversation about Bible study and teaching with ya’ll!

Amy and I cover the following questions in our conversation on Bible study:

1. Tell me a little about your relationship with the Bible. When did you first begin to love it? How has your study developed over the years? Who taught you how to study?

2. What encouragement would you offer to busy mamas who are up all hours of the night, tired, and who don't have much time to study the Bible? Does studying the Word look different in different seasons of life? What are some creative ways to incorporate studying the Word during a busy day with your children/spouse? 

3. Tell me about the process and how it developed for you. Some people feel like it’s cumbersome. How did you develop the skill of studying the Bible?  

4. What would you say to a sister who believes she's using a good method of study, but her time in the word seems flat? Is she doing something wrong? 

5. Why is continued study of the Word important? How does it impact us practically?


Three questions I ask every guest:

  1. What are the top three resources you'd recommend for Bible Study?

  2. What are your three, simple joys?

  3. Who was the most influential person in your own journey with Jesus?


Quote worthy notes:

“What does this text say? What does this text mean? Who is writing this? What are they saying? Who are they writing to? What’s the context in this author’s realm of influence? Where are these people living? Why is he writing to them there? Where is he writing from? etc. You just begin really observing the text. You’ll find that you’ll read the text so many times in observation.”

“If you’re a young mom and you’ve got babies taking a nap or you’re up with a sick baby at night, grab your phone that has the Bible app and begin to read, maybe even reading it aloud to the baby, whether it’s midnight, three in the morning, or while they’re taking a nap. Read the text, then begin to hone in on one chapter at a time. Read it, then you read it again.”

“Ideally we would be able to sit down for six hours straight, but babies are going to need their diapers changed, meals need to be prepared, you need to do housework and laundry and go to the grocery store. You just have to make it work to the best of your ability. Don’t compare yourself to anyone next to you. Just do what you can do with the time that God allows you.”

“Pray: help me understand it. Help me apply it. Move it from my head to my heart to my hands.”

“It’s okay if you can’t read 15 chapters in a day or if you can’t even read 5 verses. Just go at the pace you can and don’t beat yourself up.”

“A lot of times application comes via conviction of the Holy Spirit. You see how someone rejoices over pain or trial and you think to yourself, ‘Wow, when was the last time I rejoiced in a trial in my own life?’ but more than that even rejoicing in His care for you and His knowledge that this would be a circumstance in your life that doesn’t surprise Him, but He’s blessing you with it so that He’s allowing you to turn and trust in Him in the midst of the hardship. That’s the epitome of rejoicing to me. Those applications come as you’re observing.”

“The middle piece, interpretation, can be difficult for some people, because that’s where you have the ability to do some cross referencing and chase rabbit trails. The interp really allows you to understand, ‘What does this text mean?’”

“Not every word is a key word, not every phrase is a key phrase, and depending on our circumstances some words may mean more to us than they do to our sister, depending on what they’re going through.”

“When you’re learning anything new, you have to give yourself a lot of grace, a lot of room to learn, and a lot of room for practice.”

“If you’re too focused on the method than the message, then stop.”

“Generally when you’re doing an inductive study and you’re trying to hone in on the 5w’s and an h you want to mark/highlight the things that set them apart, so that when you go back you can easily see where you need to dig a little deeper.”

“At first you’re flying over many miles above the terrain and then you lower the plane and get a little closer, then you land the plane and you really begin to see the geographic setting of where you are. That’s the whole point of inductive. You begin at one point, you observe, interpret, and apply.”

“None of us are born knowing how to study the Bible. None of us are born knowing how to read. Like any skill worth it’s investment you have to invest your time, make it a priority, and be intentional. That means setting aside the time, getting supplies to help you figure things out, and making it a priority.” 

“Inductive enables you to observe the text and allow the text to interpret the text. So many good Bible studies out there have so much conjecture and so many personal stories involved in the telling of something you may have read in your Bible, but it’s really all about the author’s life, story, or interpretation that it dissolves what the Holy Spirit is wanting you to see. Sometimes we end up reading a book about the Bible instead of reading the Bible. Some studies that we find on the Internet or in Christian bookstores are well meaning, but I do think so often we have a tendency in our consumer society to want to consume what someone else has studied as opposed to Inductively studying the text for the text for yourself. Looking straight at Scripture and really allowing the Holy Spirit, the Resident Tutor who resides in a believer, to open your eyes and to see things in a fresh light.”

“Mountaintops and valleys are part of our Christian life. We need the valleys to appreciate the mountain top. Dry times in the Word are valleys. They won’t last forever. I would encourage a sweet sister who feels like God is distant not to give up, but to talk with the Lord about how she feels. There’s a passage in Psalm 51 and he says, ‘Restore to me the joy of your salvation.’ I cannot tell you the number of times I have prayed that one little sentence in my walk with the Lord and it always refers to my time in the Word with Him.”

“There’s no magic formula or spell. I can’t say that the next day my sister who is feeling dry will wake up and feel alive, but I will encourage her to be in a dialogue with the Lord about how she feels, asking Him to be really present in the dryness.”

“Until we take our last breath God is not done with us and every season of life that we go through affords us new opportunities to learn. We’re not done growing in our walk with Christ no matter how old we are. If we feel like we can study the word for five years and then we’re good, we’re fooling ourselves.”


Amy’s Recommended Resources

Women of the Word by Jen Wilkin

Discover the Bible for Yourself by Kay Arthur

ESV Study Bible

NISB Study Books by Precepts Ministries  

Lord Teach Me How to Study the Bible in 28 Days

Treasuring Christ When Your Hands are Full by Gloria Furman


Amy’s Simple Joys

A cool breeze (a rarity in Georgia)

Fresh herbs for cooking (flat leaf parsley, basil, and rosemary)

The end of the day front porch review with her hubby


Amy’s Fav Office Supplies

A pretty binder

Crayola erasable, twistable colored pencils set of 12

She Reads Truth Study Books


Note: If they use a workbook such as She Reads Truth for their notebook, which is great, take it to an office supply store and have them make it into a spiral bound book that lays flat. They could have them add blank printer paper into the end of the book or a sheet or two at the end of each week for extra paper needs they may have. 



connect with amy

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ep.03 on the joy & transformation of suffering

ep.03 | The Joy and Transformation of Suffering with Lauren Zumbrun

Today I’m chatting with Lauren Zumbrun as she shares her journey to joy through the transformational experience of suffering. I want you guys to know up front that while our conversation isn’t explicit, it might contain some triggers. You probably want to grab your headphones if your kiddos are nearby. After we stopped recording, Lauren made a great point that it’s important to acknowledge that everyone’s suffering is valid, no matter what level or experience someone is going through. We all experience hardship and trails that are important to acknowledge, no matter what. Hearing Lauren’s story will inspire and encourage you to search for joy in the midst of whatever you’re walking through. I’m so excited to introduce you to her today.

Lauren and I cover the following questions in our discussion:

1. Can you share with us what your days look like living in Africa?

2. I'd love for listeners to hear a little of your story and how you've come to where you are living and serving God overseas.

3. How did these experiences stretch and grow you? 

4. Did you feel happy in the midst of this hardship? 

5. Is there a difference between feeling happy and feeling joyful? 

6. How do you experience joy in the midst of trials?

7. How did your community come alongside you and provide encouragement? What was most helpful? What things did people say that weren't helpful?

8. What would you say to someone who is in the midst of a trial right now? 

9. What are some practical things you’ve done to help you process these difficult times?

10. How do you see God seeking you out in the midst of hardship?


Three questions I ask every guest

  1. Top 3 fav resources for someone navigating trials?

  2. Who has been the most influential person in your walk through suffering (think: mentor)?

  3. What are three books you can't stop recommending? 


Noteworthy Quotes

 “When a trauma happens to you, you feel like you’re unable to move on. But I knew from my previous experience of going through this journey of transformation that I wasn’t alone, that I didn’t need to suffer in silence, that I needed to be open, and it wasn’t about being open with everyone, but it was really being open and honest with God first and foremost and really experiencing a really deep peace and joy and thankfulness that I am safe, well, and can walk through healing. This is one thing that happened to me and you see it in such perspective living in South Sudan, a country in deep suffering. The way the people can endure through their great suffering made me realize that I can surely walk through healing on the other side of this tragedy.”

“I really learned in South Sudan that struggle, pain and suffering are a part of life. It’s a part of what builds us and our character, patience, and faith. We don’t need to try and run from it. The more we try to run from pain, it only causes more pain… We mourn and we dance. That’s the beauty of life.”

“Our struggle in life is really not for results and achievement all the time. It really is about relationships and people and about authentically walking out our journeys with one another.”

“There is great suffering in this world, but that doesn’t mean that God has abandoned us. We are a part of a much bigger story.”

“If you can’t even tell people how you’re doing, just tell them you’re not okay.”

“Don’t try to run away. Sit in the season that you’re in with great expectation that God is with you and that He’s doing a mighty work as you sit in pain and darkness, know that there is light. I so much wanted to be back to my old self, but what I found is that I became a new person. There was so much healing and transformation in the capacity that I didn’t really understand would come. That is really where I believe when God says He is with us and that He is making us a new creation that truly I did and I do feel like a new creation after walking through that bit of my journey.”

“Joy is about posture and perspective.”


I hope you were able to connect with Lauren’s story as much as I was! Her quote, “Joy is about posture and perspective” — totally stuck with me as I washed dishes and folded laundry! If you’d like to follow Lauren on social media her Instagram handle is listed below. As always, if you enjoyed listening please leave a review on iTunes! Can’t wait to do this again with ya’ll next week!


Lauren’s recommended resources

“The Inner Voice of Love” -Henry Nowen

“The Inner Landscape of Beauty” John O’donahue

“Can you Drink the Cup?” Henri Nouwen

“The Gift of Being Yourself” David Benner

“No Man Is an Island” Thomas Burton

Francine Rivers’ books

Liane Moriarty’s books

Richard Rohr’s books


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ep.02 on sharing the gospel

ep. 02 | Sharing the Gospel with Sarah Pape

Today on the show I’m chatting with my dear friend Sarah Pape. Sarah is a writer and photographer who lives in Dallas, TX where she juggles being a full time wife, blogger, and friend. Whether she'll will admit it or not, Sarah is so faithful to share the hope that she has in Jesus. That’s what we’ll be chatting about on Journeywomen today. I can’t wait for you to hear from her on the topic of sharing the Gospel.

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Sarah and I cover the following questions in our discussion on sharing the Gospel:

  1. What is the Gospel? Why do we share it with others?

  2. Do you remember when you first heard the Gospel?

  3. When did you develop a passion for sharing the Gospel with others?

  4. Practically, what does it look like for you to approach someone and engage them with the Gospel?

  5. Is there an organic way to approach someone? What might that look like?

  6. Do you approach people you’ve known for awhile differently than someone you’ve just met? Is there some kind of rule about having to know someone for a certain amount of time before it’s socially appropriate to talk about deep stuff like this?

  7. I’ve heard people say that sharing the Gospel isn’t something that they’re gifted at. Do you think believers are exempt from sharing the Gospel simply because they’re not “good” at it?

  8. There’s an awkward affiliation with doing it, right? Did you feel awkward when you first started? How did you overcome that?

  9. How do you fight the tendency to use sharing the Gospel as a way to earn God’s favor?

  10. What are some things you’ve done well in sharing the Gospel? How about some things you’d never want anyone to know about/follow?

  11. You’re married—can you share a little about what it looks like for you and Ben to practice this discipline together?

  12. If you haven’t shared one already I’d love to hear the story of the most impactful time you’ve ever shared the Gospel.


Three questions I ask every guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for someone who wants to learn more on this topic?

  2. What are your 3 simple joys?

  3. Who has been the most impactful person in the way you share the Gospel or in your own journey with Jesus?


Quote worthy notes:

 “Am I convinced that One died for all, and therefore all died, and I died to live for Him? Because right now, I’m not living for Him, I’m living for myself. It is more of a priority for me to be comfortable than it is for me to potentially give somebody the Truth and eternity” (13:34).

 “Am I really convinced that this is the way to heaven? Am I really convinced of all of this?” (14:30).

 “I really like to ask questions. I think that is the least invasive way to get into that (Gospel) conversation and the most natural” (20:24).

 “Asking questions and really seeking to understand while helping piece things together has been really helpful for me to make sharing the Gospel feel more natural. We are all Gospel sharers — Gospel of something — it’s natural for us to talk about the things that are important to us. It’s ironic that this would be the one thing that we don’t want to talk about” (24).

 “Girl if you say, ‘Lord, give me some opportunities, you better buckle up because He will provide. Ask for eyes to see those opportunities, the courage to take them, and the ability to transition into a conversation about the Gospel” (24:08).

 “It’s really great to go in sometimes and not have a set plan, but to ask questions and be like, ‘Alright Spirit, do your thing!’ because that’s when 1) you get the feel the Spirit alive and at work in you and 2) you’re reminded that it’s not because you’re cool, good with your words, or that you can sell something to somebody, but because of the work of the Holy Spirit. That’s not practical, but it’s like, ‘Pray it up girl,’ and let Him do His thing.”

 “Just as much as you preach the Gospel to non-believers, you need to preach it to yourself, first of all, and to your spouse and to your friends. If I’m not living or walking in the newness of life, I need my people to see that and to tell me. When that becomes part of our daily thinking and conversations, it’s natural for it to spill forth from our conversation with others. I want to be able to have the Gospel pouring out of my mouth in every scenario I can” (29:42).


My favorite takeaway from my time with Sarah was when she said that just as much as you preach the Gospel to non-believers, we need to preach it to ourselves, first of all, and to our spouses and to friends. She said when the Gospel becomes part of our daily thinking and conversations, it’s natural for it to spill over into our conversations with others. Ya’ll! I desire that for myself! I’m so grateful for Sarah’s wisdom on sharing the hope that she has in Jesus with others! Be sure to find her information in the show notes if you’d like to follow her for more good stuff! Thanks so much for listening!


Sarah’s recommended resources

Respectable Sins by Jerry Bridges

The Topical Memory System verses on the Gospel

The Jesus Storybook Bible by Sally Lloyd Jones


Sarah’s simple joys

Calphia Almond Milk Chocolate Noir Coffee

Nate Berkus collection at Target

Micro Pigs


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ep.01 on forgiveness

ep. 01 | Forgiveness with Carrie Langemeier

Today I’m interviewing Carrie Langemeier, a lover of truth, teacher of God’s word, and encourager of women. Carrie is the best friend, helpmate and wife of Craig Langemeier, the chief ministry officer at Pine Cove Christian Camps. She’s also the mother of five beautiful children, a master decorator, and the author of an upcoming parenting book that I wish I could have read two years ago! On this show we talk about forgiveness. Carrie shares about her own journey to forgive her father. She shares about her experiences counseling many women struggling with unforgiveness, and even gives us some tidbits about how to encourage our kiddos to forgive one another when they’ve been wronged. I definitely felt conviction to address unforgiveness in my own heart after this one! I hope ya’ll enjoy hearing from her as much as I did!

Carrie and I cover the following questions in our conversation on forgiveness:

 1. What is forgiveness?

2. What was your first memorable experience with forgiveness? What did the process of forgiving that person look like? (You can talk extensively about your personal journey with forgiveness here.)

3. Is forgiveness a one and done deal, or is it an ongoing process?

4. If you had to map out a journey to forgiveness, what would that look like? 

5. What can we do when we’re stuck, ruminating on the cause of our hurt?

6. Are we always called to forgive? What if the person isn’t sorry for what they’ve done?

7. What about the person who is continuing to hurt me? Or the person who is evil? What if we don’t really want to forgive them for what they’ve done, or we don't think they deserve it?

8. What would you say to someone who is putting up walls to protect themselves from being hurt again? 

9. We know the heart of forgiveness rests in the Gospel. Is it possible for someone to truly forgive if they aren’t hidden in Christ? 

10. How can we know if we’ve truly forgiven?

11. Add on parenting question if we have time: how do you shepherd and encourage your kids to forgive (especially one another) when they've been wronged?


 Three questions I ask every guest

1. What are your top 3 resources for someone on this topic?

2. What are 3 books (of all genres) that you find yourself recommending again and again?

3. Who has been the most impactful person in your walk with Jesus?


 Quote worthy notes

 “Forgiveness is instrumental to our walk with the Lord. The lack of forgiveness between believers is where the enemy has his greatest successes.”

 “Living with bitterness and unforgiveness is like a weed in your garden. It has tendrils that go down so deep. The picture I had was that this weed was in my heart and in the center of my body and that these tendrils of bitterness wrapped around every one of my toes in my entire body and no matter how much I wanted to live a life pleasing and honoring to God, that bitterness and unforgiveness was choking out my joy” (9:20).

 “Forgiveness has less to do with your horizontal relationship and everything to do with your vertical one.”

 “No matter what you’re walking through in a conflict, whether you’re asking forgiveness or someone is asking you for forgiveness, the most freeing thing I tell myself is that I am not responsible for their response. That’s between them and God. I am only responsible for my obedience.”

 “Forgiveness doesn’t make sense in the temporal. It is very much a spiritual exercise.”

 “The process of forgiveness is not a pretty process.”


 Carrie’s recommended resources

Mark of the Lion Series by Francine Rivers

“Jessica’s First Prayer” Lamplighter Books

“Teddy’s Button” Lamplighter Book


 Connect with Carrie

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ep.00 | Introduction to Journeywomen


Welcome to the very first episode! It humbles me that you desire to tune in. Honestly, I hesitated to record an introductory podcast because this whole thing really isn’t about me, but I was convinced by a few friends of mine that you might like to know a little more of the heart behind the show.

As some background, I started listening to podcasts about 4 years ago while walking the streets of Fort Hood. As I listened to two gals banter back and forth about nutrition on The Balanced Bites podcast, I fell in love with the communication median of podcasting. I must be an auditory learner or something. Or maybe I just idolize productivity and love learning and being entertained while I’m doing practical tasks. That’s probably it. Anyway, my dream to host my own show was appropriately born walking the sidewalks of a military installation.

Since then, my husband Brooks and I moved two times with the army and welcomed two babies into our home. Our oldest, Hadley, is two and a half and our youngest, Davy, will be a year old in august. At the end of 2016 I finally felt like God gave me a passion and vision for the kind of podcast I’d like to launch into the world. That is where the Journeywoman Podcast was born. The name Journeywomen comes from my own personal identification as a journeywoman. I am a journeywoman for Jesus: one who is sent out to point others back to their Heavenly Father.

My hope is that the show will further equip and encourage us to glorify God as we navigate the challenges we face as Christian women. A journeywoman is asking things like, “How can I glorify God through opening my home? How can I glorify God by memorizing scripture? How can I glorify God using my gifts, like teaching, writing, or serving? How can I glorify God in my season of waiting, singleness, transition, depression, etc?”

Each episode, I’ll introduce you to guideposts who have pointed me to Jesus on my own spiritual journey. I hope that our conversations will offer solidarity and camaraderie, as well as encouragement from mentors who can offer the wisdom of years and experience. If we’re doing this right, Journeywomen will be a place to equip and encourage Christian women to practice disciplines today to develop into the kind of women we want to be in 20-30 years.

While I do hope that the podcast will be able to come alongside you as you’re doing dishes, cooking meals, cleaning, commuting, or pushing your babies on a walk, I don’t want to give the impression that it will in any way serve as a replacement for genuine, life-on-life community that happens within the local church.

To use one of my favorite quotes from Dietrich Bonhoeffer, God created us to do life together under the Word of God. My hope is that Journeywomen will be a tool for creating or enhancing conversations that you’re sharing with sisters in your local church over coffee, while you’re working, as you’re pushing babies in swings, or whatever it is that you do!  

Alright, I think that’s enough explanation for now. I’d love to know more about who you are and what you're doing as you listen! The best way to find me is on Instagram @hunterbeless or @journeywomenpodcast. You can also find me on Facebook. I’ll be sure to link everything in this show and on future episodes in the show notes that you can find at hunterbelss.com. Thanks so much for joining me! Hope you enjoy the show.