ep.23 on the big story of the bible

Caroline Cobb

ep. 23 | The Big Story of the Bible with Caroline Cobb

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with Caroline Cobb. Caroline is a singer-songwriter and worship leader particularly interested in telling the stories of scripture through her music. Her new album A Home + A Hunger centers around the biblical theme of kingdom hope in exile. Caroline and I talked about how viewing Scripture as one Big Story has not only developed our theology, but literally transformed us. I love her encouragement to keep looking at Scripture, no matter what season we’re in or how much time we’re able to devote to studying, because God will use Scripture to change our lives. My favorite quote was, “The Bible is a book about God. It’s not about us. What’s really cool about it is that when we go to Scripture looking for God and not just looking for a quick, Instagram-sized encouragement or whatever, then that is where we find TRUE encouragement, when we’re gazing upward at him instead of trying to get a quick answer or just feel better." I’m encouraged to continue my quest to grow in my understanding of how this Grand Narrative works it’s way throughout all of history. I hope you’ll join me! 

  1. I just finished reading through the Bible with the goal of better understanding how the Bible connects from Genesis to Revelation and I found your music so helpful for comprehending and remembering the Big Storyline of Scripture. Can you tell us a little about the heart behind your work?

  2. Before we get ahead of ourselves, can you offer a summary of the message that your album seeks to communicate? 

  3. When did you first begin to understand that all of the stories of the Bible fit together and collectively point to one thing/person/event?

  4. Why is it important that we understand that?

  5. What has helped you to develop your understanding of the metanarrative?

  6. What do you do when you come across a story or a passage in Scripture and you don't really understand how it fits into the Big Story?

  7. How does understanding the Big Story impact your day-to-day life?

  8. What's at risk if we don't read the Bible or frame our own lives in the context of the Greater Story?

  9. What encouragement do you have for someone who wants to develop their understanding of the Bible as one Big Story, but who feels intimidated and doesn't know where to start?

  10. What recommendations do you have for someone who wants to read the Bible with the goal of understanding the metanarrative, but who finds herself in a busy season?

  11. How will knowing and understanding the metanarrative of Scripture change us?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for someone wanting to develop their understanding of the metanarrative or the Big Story of Scripture?
  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?
  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“In the beginning when God created the world he created Adam and Eve and humanity to be with him, in communion with him. Because of sin, that broke… there was a brokenness with creation, with our Creator, and with each other. But even from the beginning in Genesis 3:15 there is this promise that God makes even as he’s telling [Adam and Eve] the punishment for their sin, and it’s that one of Eve’s descendants will crush the serpent’s head. Even from the beginning there is a beautiful story of rescue happening. Even as you go through the Old Testament you can see shadows of a Messiah who is coming and promises of redemption and rescue. Finally when Christ comes on the scene this brokenness that we’ve felt begins to go in reverse. The end of the story is -- which we sometimes forget -- is that he will come and wipe every tear from our eyes and be with us. We will be able to have restored communion with him, eventually, along with every tribe, nation, and tongue. It’s going to be good. That’s what we were made for.”

“This is a Big Story that’s not really about us, but that we get to be a part of.”

“It takes so much pressure off of us, to know that we don’t have to be great like [x, y, or z Bible character].”

“The Bible is a book about God. It’s not about us. What’s really cool about it is that when we go to Scripture looking for God and not just looking for a quick, Instagram-sized encouragement or whatever, then that is where we find TRUE encouragement, when we’re gazing upward at him instead of trying to get a quick answer or just feel better. That is a huge one. We can’t make it fit what we want it to say. It’s really only by looking at Christ and not ourselves that we grow and that we find true encouragement and hope.”

“The hope of the end of the story that Jesus’ kingdom is already breaking in, that he is a judge God, and that he will not just let evil go unpunished, that one day he will wipe away our tears and that all of the sad things will come untrue as it says, and that brings us so much hope.”

“We have to trust that as we’re looking for Christ in Scripture, as we’re wanting to behold him as he is and not as we’re trying to make him to be, as we behold Christ the Bible will transform us.”  

“Just keep looking at Scripture. It will change you.”

“How beautiful is God’s Word that even though I’ve been a Christian for a long time that we can continue to learn and understand new things?” 

“Give him [God] the first fruits of your time.”

“Jesus has completed it for you. He loves you. We live obediently and struggle against our sin not to earn his favor but because that’s what the Gospel frees us to do.”

 

Caroline's Resources

Missional Motherhood by Gloria Furman

The Jesus Storybook Bible by Sally Lloyd Jones

 Studies by Jen Wilkin

Studies by Nancy Guthrie

From Garden to Glory by Courtney Doctor

The Story of God’s Love for You by Sally Lloyd Jones

Cover-to-Cover Facebook Group that Hunter mentioned

 

Caroline's Simple Joys

Young Adult Fantasy Fiction (Harry Potter or The Wing Feather Saga)

Adventure

Songwriting

 

Connect with Caroline


SPONSORSHIP DETAILS

Today's episode of the Journeywomen Podcast is sponsored by T Bar M Camps.  

Ya’ll have heard me talk about how much camp has impacted my life... Well, there is a camp in New Braunfels, TX that I love called T Bar M. You may have heard of T Bar M for their incredible kids summer camps, but did you know that you can retreat with them year round? Having spent a year on a camp property, I believe there is something about getting away and being in nature that is good for the soul. Growth is bound to happen when you experience that with other people, be it your family, ministry or business.

If you have a group that needs to retreat, T Bar M is the place to go. T Bar M is a unique property with lots of space, whether it’s a getaway or full on programming and team-building, T Bar M is excited to come alongside of you to accomplish your goals in a Christ-centered environment. Texas may be a quite trip for many of you, but situated between Austin and San Antonio, T Bar M is in close proximity to two airports.

Right now, T Bar M is partnering with Journeywomen to help you retreat well! Visit
tbarm.org/journeywomen and get a free Ebook on the value of retreating, along with 15% off your first retreat experience!

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ep.22 on walking in wisdom

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ep. 22 | Walking in Wisdom with Liz Curtis Higgs

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with Liz Curtis Higgs. Liz has one goal: to help women embrace the grace of God with joy and abandon. Her messages are biblical, encouraging, down-to-earth, and profoundly funny, helping sisters and seekers experience the depth of God’s love. She is the author of 37 books with 4.6 million copies in print, including her nonfiction bestsellers Bad Girls of the Bible, The Girl’s Still Got It, The Women of Christmas and The Women of Easter. She has spoken at 1,700 women’s conferences in all 50 states and 14 countries. A former radio personality, Higgs has appeared on more than 700 media outlets including NPR, “Focus on the Family,” “Life Today,” Chris Fabry Live, PBS and A&E. She is happily married to Bill Higgs and they share their life together in a 19th century farmhouse in Louisville, Kentucky.

I’m so grateful for women who have fervently followed Jesus much longer than me, like Liz. What a JOY to get an hour of her time to chat about journeying with wisdom and grace. We discussed everything from being former bad girls rescued by God’s grace to raising babies of our own, all of it peppered by Liz’s flair for funny. Hope you guys enjoy our conversation as much as I did!

  1. Liz, I love that you’ve been walking women through the Bible for nearly two decades and that you’re passionate about Biblical literacy. Can you share with us where that passion started for you?

  2. How have you developed your own personal knowledge of the Bible?

  3. What prompted you to write you most recent book on the Proverbs? Is it considered a devotional, Bible study, or both?

  4. Proverbs is known for being a book of wisdom. What does it look like for us to walk in wisdom as believers?

  5. How can we know if we’re walking in wisdom or not?

  6. Do you have a personal favorite from the Proverbs included in your book?

  7. One of my favorites is Proverbs 16:3 which says, “Commit to the LORD whatever you do, and he will establish your plans.” Can you help us break this one down?

  8. I’m developing my understanding of how everything in both the Old and New Testament is part of the Greater Story of God’s plan to rescue his people through his son, Jesus. That said, do we see the Gospel in Proverbs? If so, can you help us understand where we see it?

  9. You wrote, “What we consider mistakes, God considers lessons.” This is getting really honest, but I have a hard time looking to the Gospel when I’ve made a mistake. It’s an active practice for me. What encouragement do you have for me and for anyone else who feels like the messes they make are tallied against them instead of washed clean by the blood of Jesus?

  10. What is the joy/benefit/freedom of walking in wisdom?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for someone who wants to grow in wisdom?
  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?
  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“I don’t want my kids to see a perfect mother, I want my kids to see a perfect Heavenly Father who is at work in all of us, including them, including mom and dad, including grandparents, everybody.”

“My message to mothers is: first of all, don’t be hard on yourself. You’re doing everything you can do. What mother doesn’t? It’s just we’re so aware of all we didn’t do, can’t ‘do, or don’t have the energy to do. We’re always aware of how short we fall. But here is our good, good, Father who bridges the gap between everything we can’t do as parents and what He can do, which is of course, everything.”

“The Body shows us where our faults lie, where our prejudices lie, where our judgmental nature might be hiding and I’m so grateful that we have a God that loves us as much as he does, is ever-training, never-grows-weary, never grows faint, and never sleeps.”  

“The maturing process is FUN. It just gets better. But that isn’t the message that our culture gives us. Our culture says that young is cool and old is dull and it gets less fun and more horrible every year. That is really not the truth. It’s a real lie. The truth is, if you look for fun it is there in every season.”  

“If you’re going to get full of the Word, you HAVE to pour it out.”  

“Wisdom is a light for your path. That’s what wisdom does. It lights your path. And it’s God’s light shining in us.” 

“The Lord isn’t just weighing our actions. He cares about our motives. Often we try hard to get our act together to look good and that doesn’t work for God at all. He really only cares about what is happening inside.”

“It’s got to be a word from the Word to really have any value.”  

“It’s all Jesus. It is nothing BUT Jesus. Any good thing in us is the God thing in us.”

“If the goodness comes from God. Then the rotten fruit comes from God’s enemy who is our enemy. Guilt, shame, and condemnation never come from God. [God] convicts, but his conviction is always in love, it’s always gentle. The voice of Jesus correcting us is love, but the voice of the enemy condemning us is hate.”

“Are you talking about a real Satan?” Yes. I am. If I’m talking about a real God, I have to talk about a real enemy. He’s there. He’s all through Scripture. He certainly was there in the life of Christ. He is real, but he’s not worthy of our attention, of our listening-to and doing what he asks us to do, so we have to understand the difference between conviction of God and the condemnation of the enemy.”

“God has left us on this earth to walk this walk. We don’t get it all right until we stand in His presence."

“Any wisdom I have is God’s. Any walk I’m doing, He’s laying down every rock in front of me.” 

“If we can stand on the path we’re on and take one step of faith at a time, we can be absolutely sure we’re on the path that he wants us to be on.” 

“It’s not that every day is perfect, but every day is perfectly what He has for us.” 

“I would tell my younger self to stick to 40 hours a week. I would tell my old self that too, actually.”

 

Liz's Resources

The Word - multiple translations

Bible Gateway

Reading the Bible Aloud

31 Proverbs to Light Your Path

 

Liz's Simple Joys

Road tripping with her husband

Sitting around the kitchen table playing games like Scrabble, cards, UNO, or Set

Cuddling with her two, grey, tabby cats Boaz and Sampson

 

Connect with liz


SPONSORSHIP DETAILS

Today's episode of the Journeywomen Podcast is sponsored by T Bar M Camps.  

Ya’ll have heard me talk about how much camp has impacted my life... Well, there is a camp in New Braunfels, TX that I love called T Bar M. You may have heard of T Bar M for their incredible kids summer camps, but did you know that you can retreat with them year round? Having spent a year on a camp property, I believe there is something about getting away and being in nature that is good for the soul. Growth is bound to happen when you experience that with other people, be it your family, ministry or business.

If you have a group that needs to retreat, T Bar M is the place to go. T Bar M is a unique property with lots of space, whether it’s a getaway or full on programming and team-building, T Bar M is excited to come alongside of you to accomplish your goals in a Christ-centered environment. Texas may be a quite trip for many of you, but situated between Austin and San Antonio, T Bar M is in close proximity to two airports.

Right now, T Bar M is partnering with Journeywomen to help you retreat well! Visit
tbarm.org/journeywomen and get a free Ebook on the value of retreating, along with 15% off your first retreat experience!

Follow them on Instagram or Facebook


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ep.21 on leading small groups

Jennie Allen

ep. 21 | Leading Small Groups with Jennie Allen

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with Jennie Allen. Jennie is a Bible teacher marked by personal authenticity and vulnerability. She encourages women to go to these same places as they study scripture, wrestle with truth, and more fully live out their short time on this planet.  Jennie and Zac have four children, Connor, Kate, Caroline, and Cooper. She writes Bible studies, authors books, and founded a live event called IF:Gathering designed to gather, equip, and unleash the next generation to live out their purpose. She’s a mom, a wife, and most of all--totally obsessed with following Jesus and imparting that passion to other women, which is exactly what we talked about today.

Jennie really encouraged me to pursue real relationships with the goal of making disciples. My sincere hope is that this podcast will serve as a springboard for conversations within the context of your real-life community, like your own small groups, the women at your church, your co-workers, the girls in your dorm room,  or with mamas at the park. I’m praying that intentional conversations centered around the Word of God will challenge and deepen your faith while strengthening your relationships with your mentors and disciples. Come share how you’re growing with us on Instagram and Facebook! Looking forward to seeing you guys here next Monday.

  1. For those who aren’t familiar with your work, can you tell us a little about who you are and what you do?

  2. I asked you to come on the show to discuss leading small groups because despite standing on stage and speaking for thousands of women, I can tell from your books and from the content you put out that gathering small groups of women around the Word of God is a passion of yours. I’d love to hear where this originated for you: who taught you this process and where it started? What was the first Bible study that you led? What does this look like for you in this season?

  3. What’s the point of small group study? Can we talk a little bit about the heart behind women gathering together to study the Word of God?

  4. What are some key principles for leading a small group study? What is your encouragement to someone who might feel inadequate when it comes to leadership?

  5. Practically, what is the format of your studies? Why do you do that the way that you do? What are some common pitfalls small groups fall into?

  6. As leaders, how can we stay focused on seeking God and the souls of men over building our small group or our ministry? How do you keep things simple when our culture wants to build numbers and platforms?

  7. What do you do with positive feedback in your role as a leader? How do you respond to that? What would you suggest we do when we feel ourselves becoming too puffed up or too concerned with the approval of man?

  8. Knowing what you know now, what would you encourage the Bible teacher Jennie when you were 20 years old? What would you have told Bible teacher Jennie when you had a 3 year old in the house?

  9. How do you continue to flourish — especially when you’re busy and when your ministry is flourishing/demanding?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for someone wanting to develop as a disciple or as a mentor?
  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?
  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“I’m going to make disciples and I’m going to use my gifts to teach people around me. That’s what I love doing.”

 “Make disciples who make disciples. That is clear. That is the call.”

“The call on our lives is that we all go make disciples. That can be one person that can be five people that can be twenty people, but honestly it’s probably going to be a smaller group. Even those that lead big Bible studies I encourage to break into smaller groups.”

“It is easier to publish a book than it is to invite your neighbors to a Bible study. I don’t know why that is, but it’s true. It is easier to do big things than small things. The courage to interact with the people closest to us and to take a risk is difficult.”

“You are ahead of somebody in your life… there is somebody below you that is in some way behind you and you have something to give to them.”  

“Recognize that you need help. You need people pouring into you… Seek out being discipled and seek out being under the authority of the local church and then we give our lives away.”

“It doesn’t matter if you have a leadership gift. It doesn’t matter if you have a teaching gift. You were called to invest your life into others.”

“The main thing of being a believer and following Jesus is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength and to love people like it-- the Great Commandment--and the Great Commission--to make disciples of all the earth. What that looked like was right in front of you, how Jesus did it, a handful of people and them pouring into a handful of people.”

“Someone asked me one time, ‘What is the measuring marker to tell if you’re making a disciple?’ I said, ‘It’s easy. Jesus made it really clear. You make disciples who are making disciples. Once your disciple is making disciples then you’ve done good work and made an effective disciple.’”

“No matter what else I do and how gifted I am to be able to do what I’m doing, there is nothing more rewarding than a living room full of girls or a coffee date with a girl, giving her the Word of God.”

“As women grow in their understanding of the Word and grow in their mission to make disciples a lot of these thing snap into place. A lot of growth happens personally… When we’re doing what he made us to do to serve and make disciples in the church things start happening that are beyond that you could do yourself.”

“We are at war for our mind and our affections… It’s turned into a full on assault if you just want to get a quiet time. It’s not even easy to do that anymore. The number of tethers being thrown at you on a given morning is ridiculous. It’s good to recognize that it’s a real war and we have an issue if we don’t learn to fight back.”

“There’s a real sobriety in my life that this is short and I’m in it for the glory of God.” 

“If you’re really going to go fight for the glory of God and the good of people you’re not signing up for an ego and you’re not signing up for an easy life. You’re signing up to go to war with darkness and trying to set captives free.”

“I would have said to her ‘You’re doing good work. Don’t think there is something bigger around the corner. You’re doing it right now. You’re doing the big thing.’ I think I would have felt more settled if I could have believed that.” 

“There is nobility and honor in faithfulness. Faithfulness can look like diaper changes, meeting with a girl for coffee, or working a really hard job to provide for your family. It can look like a lot of different things, but I think we tend to be really hard on ourselves when the truth is we’re all probably really doing the best with what we’ve been given.”

“This is stewardship before God. If we let our view of our reputation of ourself. If we let our view of humility be that we should bury something because God should be pleased, we have a passage in Scripture (in the parable of the talents) that should terrify you and haunt you.”

“I think we are afraid of success. We’re afraid of putting ourselves out there and winning. A lot of women feel more comfortable in failure than they do in success.”  

“We underestimate people’s craving for the eternal. It is built in. Man was created with eternity written into their hearts.”

 

Jennie's Resources

The Master Plan of Evangelism

Proven - Bible Study Book 

IF:Equip

Current Church History Study

IF:Gathering

IF:Gathering Shoppe

IF:Table

 

Jennie's Simple Joys

Discovering new things

Being outdoors

People

 

Connect with Jennie


SPONSORSHIP DETAILS

Today's episode of the Journeywomen Podcast is sponsored by Because I'm His.  

Diana Carter founded Because I'm His in 2016 in the midst of a paralyzing season of anxiety and panic. What started as means of survival in her journal eventually turned into an Instagram account she used to process a season of hopelessness. The only way to silence the lies attacking her identity was to speak back to them with the truth of who she was in Christ.

And so, Because I'm His was born.

Because I’m His is a community of women rooted in their Biblical identities and walking in the fullness of that reality. Through daily devotions, vulnerable storytelling and biblical truths, Because I’m His exists to equip women to know their true identities and walk in the fullness of that reality.

Follow @becauseimhis on Instagram and visit their website at becauseimhis.com.


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ep.20 on motherhood

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ep. 20 | Motherhood with Heather MacFadyen

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with Heather MacFadyen of the God Centered Mom Podcast on the topic of motherhood. Heather and I talked all things mothering, from prioritizing time in the Word to Gospel-centered encouragement for tired mamas like myself. This episode is truth-filled, rich, and I probably laughed a little too much.

Heather has been married since the turn of the century which she says sounds more impressive than it is--though I personally beg to differ. She is the mother of four young boys (born exactly, to the day, within 6 1/2 years . . . just like she’d always planned). Heather hosts a weekly podcast (The God Centered Mom Podcast) interviewing fellow journeyers on the topic of motherhood. On social media she chronicles the colorful chaos of "relentlessly replacing ‘me’ with ‘He’" — sharing the daily struggle of remaining God-centered while mothering four wild-at-heart, energetic, and often stubborn boys. Her heart is for moms to know God's great delight over them. How He sees the unseen eternal work they do every day. And to know they “Don’t Mom Alone."

  1. How do you define motherhood?
  2. Can you help us set a Biblical foundation for motherhood? What does Scripture say about it?
  3. How does motherhood relate to the Gospel? Practically, how can we put the Gospel on display as mothers?
  4. What about when we fail? How should we respond? And what encouragement do we have to press forward in making little disciples?
  5. How can we connect with and love mothers who parent differently than we do?
  6. What are some lies we might find ourselves particularly subjected to as mothers? What are truths to hold onto to combat those lies?
  7. What are some other practical ways to get into the Word as a mom?
  8. How about being in community and serving in the church (especially for the tired mama)?
  9. Do you have any encouragement for the mama who feels overwhelmed by her motherly calling?
  10. What are some things you do to help you recharge as a mom?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for motherhood?

  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?

  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“Motherhood feels unique and special in that it’s one role in which you get to intimately love another human soul in a kind of selfless service, tangible grace, moment to moment discipleship. If you’ve ever served in any ministry it’s the one ministry where they’re seeing you in your worst and best place, and you get to minister to them in their hardest and best moments. It’s such an interweaving of lives even beyond your spouse because they’re part of you. Or, through adoption, it’s hard too. You get to see a perfect reflection of God’s love and how we are grafted into the kingdom because of Jesus.”  

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” Jeremiah 1:5

“Each of our children are on their own journeys. To bubble wrap them and protect them is to sabotage that God has them on some journey… we can’t forget that God will use [hard things] for his glory. In trying to protect them we might sabotage what God is trying to do in their lives.”

“Sin is choosing my way over God’s way.”

“The Gospel is that Jesus came, God made flesh, and he took the penalty for all our sin. It doesn’t mean that we’ll never sin again, it just means that when God sees me he sees Jesus. I have to remember that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. I’m on the same side as my kids. We both need Jesus. I cannot come at it from the other side.”

“God tells us that we all need help. I’m so thankful he sent Jesus. I’m so thankful we aren’t able to get out of this mess. All we need to do is ask Jesus to help us out of this mess… We can say, ‘Lord, help me.’”

“There’s confession and then there’s repentance. If you’re in a season where you’re constantly confessing the same thing to your kids, they will constantly forgive you, but at some point there might be a deeper issue that you need to work with God to really repent, which means to turn 180 degrees.”  

“It’s amazing how often God compares his relationship with Israel to a mom. Again, outside of how the child came about, or outside of what the mom is doing for a job, he talks about the nursing mother and how can she forget her nursing child? He will not forget Israel. In Isaiah 66 as a mother comforts you, so shall you be comforted. I’m seeing comfort and compassion. In Proverbs it says don’t forget your mother’s teaching--we have that role--teaching. And then in Timothy we see his faith coming from his mother and his grandmother. We have this opportunity to be compassionate, comforting, teaching, faith-building women to whatever children God has placed into our lives and whatever souls he has handed us for that time. If there is anything getting in the way of that, that’s where we need to spend some time with God and in community talk through why that is. What hurts am I holding onto from my past? What lies are circling around in my head that are causing me to consistently struggle with x, y, or z?”  

“Think about a dominant feeling that you have. Journal out three or four thoughts you remember having. Ask the Lord where this is coming from and what happens as a result of these feelings. Write all of those things down and then ask God, ‘What is true?’”

“Spend some time with God doing an analysis of your feelings, thoughts, and what you do as a result, is a good place to start.”

“God, show me what you want me to know about you in this situation where I’m feeling like I’m not enough. Instead of feeling like you didn’t make me right or like I just can’t get it together, show me actually what’s true about YOU God instead of making it about ME not getting it together.”

Tips for getting in the Word as a mom:

  1. Leave the Bible out on the counter.

  2. Keep a separate journal of impactful verses.

  3. Practice waking before your kids wake.

“Calling is what all of us have been given to go into the world and make disciples.  Assignment is where we’re doing that.” -Kat Armstrong

 “If my eyes are towards Christ and I’m lifting my eyes to him, then my kids are going to watch what I do more than they do what I say. They’re going to watch and do what I do more than they do what I tell them to do. If my eyes are constantly on them, that’s overwhelming. But it’s not overwhelming to turn to Christ and say, ‘Help me get my relationship right with you,’ and for your children to come alongside you in that.”

 

Heather's Resources

Gospel-Centered Mom

Kat Lee Hello Mornings

Ivory Soap in Microwave Experiment

Parenting by Paul David Tripp

REVING the Word, Revelation Wellness Podcast Episodes

Steps into God's Grace by Lynn Hoffmann

 

Heather's Simple Joys

Old episodes of Friends the TV Show

Saturday morning walks with her husband

Good girl time

 

Connect with Heather


SPONSORSHIP DETAILS

Today's episode of the Journeywomen Podcast is sponsored by Sleepy Cues.  

Jenn & Robin, the founders of Sleepy Cues, began the company after experiencing challenging seasons of sleep with their own families. They realized this struggle was anything but uncommon to new moms & dads. Individually they became immersed in all things infant and child sleep and started helping their friends and their own children establish healthy sleep rhythms. A few years later,  Sleepy Cues was birthed to serve a wider audience. Jenn & Robin come alongside families to establish healthy sleep rhythms for the whole family.  They believe understanding your baby or child and confidently responding to their needs is foundational to family health.  Sleepy Cues offers four different packages including a written proposal with their suggestions, real time text messaging or a video conference call.  You can find out more about them at sleepycues.com or follow them on Instagram at @sleepycues.  And, if you mention the Journeywomen Podcast, you will get an extra day of real time text messaging added to your package for FREE (a $10 value).

 


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ep.19 on faith and doubt

Andrea Lucado

ep. 19 | Faith and Doubt with Andrea Lucado

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with Andrea Lucado. Andrea and I talk about her struggle with doubt and the growth she experienced by allowing herself to ask hard questions about her faith. She is a freelance writer based in Austin, TX who just published her first book: English Lessons, on that very topic. Andrea has a Master’s in English Literature from Oxford-Brookes University and contributes regularly to online and print publications such as Relevant Magazine and She Reads Truth. When she is not conducting interviews or writing stories, you can find her laughing with friends at a coffee shop--which is exactly what I felt like we did via Skype in our conversation today. I hope you guys enjoy our conversation on faith and doubt as much as I did!

  1. Tell us about yourself and about your recent book that came out?

  2. Can you share with the listeners what your book is about? At what point in your life did you begin to experience doubt?

  3. Looking back on your time as an Oxford student, can you pinpoint a primary reason for this? 

  4. What would you suggest to someone if they find themselves here? 

  5. Why do you think people are afraid of wrestling with doubt and allowing themselves to ask tough questions?  

  6. Did you feel any sense of shame or awkwardness for your willingness to ask and ponder the tough questions you had about your faith?

  7. Were you open about your doubts to others or the church? What was that like? How did others respond?

  8. Do you still find yourself wrestling with doubt? If so, how do you continue to navigate it?

  9. How has allowing yourself to ask the hard questions impacted your relationship with God? Your faith?

  10. What are some ways that we, as church members, can love others who are walking through a season of doubting?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for someone walking through doubt?

  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?

  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“Talk to people who talk to God. Sometimes when we’re doubting we’re not sure that God’s there and it’s hard to talk to him. But if you can talk to someone who is talking to God who is not at the same place you are, it can be really encouraging.”

“[In the midst of my doubt] I found a lot of comfort sitting in a room full of people that I wasn’t so sure about, but that they were sure about.”

“You see the Psalmist crying out to God even in the midst of their questions and I think that is such an important thing to do if you are experiencing doubt, especially if you’re shaking your fist at God. Rather instead of shaking your fist, just look up and shrug and hold your hands open and say, ‘Okay, I don’t know, help me.’” 

“To love a friend who is wrestling with hard questions say, ‘I don’t have the answers and that’s hard.’ Remain their friend. Be in community with them. Let them know that you’re a safe place to ask questions… Be a safe place for them, spend time with them,  and letting them be where they are.”

“I really feel like I can ask him anything. I still have the temptation to censor my prayers and to bring something to him that’s not totally honest, but now I feel like we’ve been through alot together.”

“The older I get, God keeps revealing to me how kind he is. That was one way he revealed that he wouldn’t leave me even when I was unsure about him. He was faithful to his covenant even when I doubted it.”

“Church might seem monotonous or something that people do, but really it’s such an essential practice to our faith journeys.”

“My identity is not in what I do or in how good I am at stuff. My identity is solely and completely in Jesus.”

 

andrea's Resources

My Bright Abyss by Christian Wiman

Reading through the Psalms

Finding a front light

Hunter's Recommended Almond Milk Frother

 

andrea's Simple Joys

Coffee

Red Wine

Reading

 

andrea's book recommendations

Ready Player One

Everything I Never Told You

Code Name Verity

The Paris Wife

*Note that Andrea suggested we take her recommendations with a grain of salt. As someone who has a degree in  English Literature, she is not easily offended.

 

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SPONSORSHIP DETAILS

Diana Carter founded Because I'm His in 2016 in the midst of a paralyzing season of anxiety and panic. What started as means of survival in her journal eventually turned into an Instagram account she used to process a season of hopelessness. The only way to silence the lies attacking her identity was to speak back to them with the truth of who she was in Christ.

And so, Because I'm His was born.

Because I’m His is a community of women rooted in their Biblical identities and walking in the fullness of that reality. Through daily devotions, vulnerable storytelling and biblical truths, Because I’m His exists to equip women to know their true identities and walk in the fullness of that reality.

Follow @becauseimhis on Instagram and visit their website at becauseimhis.com.


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ep.18 on the theology of identity

Matt Lantz. The Theology of Identity

ep. 18 | The Theology of Identity with Matt Lantz

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with my friend and former mentor, Matt Lantz. 

Matt is a husband, father, and pastor who lives in Fort Worth, Texas with his wife and three children. He’s a graduate of TCU and Dallas Theological Seminary and has been working in full-time ministry since 2000 preparing the way for the Lord Jesus in the lives of men and women. Matt was the founding director of a discipleship program called the Forge at Pine Cove where he spent 12 years helping young men and women learn their identity and steward it well. He has recently moved on from the Forge and is now serving as the Recruitment and Development Pastor at Christ Chapel Bible Church in Fort Worth.

This conversation reminded me of the things I learned during my time in the Forge program about identity and how we live out our God-given design. This podcast will be a semesterly, if not monthly listen for me as I continue to learn more of what it looks like to live in light of who I am in Christ.

  1. You've played a huge role in helping me develop my understanding of who I am and how God uniquely designed me. I'd love to just start there. What is identity? Do you have a basic definition?

  2. What influences our identity? What should influence our identity?

  3. Is identity something that is shaped and developed over time? If so, how can we continue developing our identity?

  4. How do you detect when you’re not functioning within your God-given design?

  5. What can we do when we realize that our foundation isn't very stable? For example, if we've built our identity around someone or something that will never be able to withstand that the pressure of supporting it, like our spouse, or our job, online presence, etc, how can we move forward from there towards building a stronger, more stable, Biblical foundation?

  6. We're familiar with the passages that communicate identity. But how do we really live those out in a practical sense? How do we move them from our heads to our hearts to our hands?

  7. What does it look like to have an immature view of who you are? How about mature?

  8. What role does community play in developing our identity? How has community influenced your own identity?

  9. What role do we have as disciple-makers/parents in helping our disciples develop their identity?

  10. So often our generation falls into the camp of knowing and understanding ourselves and our strengthens so well that we can be caught up in only pursuing things that fit within our "calling". What's your encouragement to someone who has a good grasp of who they are, but who feels paralyzed or stuck because they don't have facets to exercise who they are in the exact way in which they'd hoped?

  11. A couple of our Journeywomen followers have heard me talk about my identity statement and asked if you offer some guidance on creating their own. Do you have any tips for them?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What are your top 3 resources for someone who desires to develop their identity?

  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?

  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“Identity is declaration that defines being that indicates design and direction.”

“A hammer has a specific design, a way that it is shaped and made. It is made out of different materials, you don’t make a hammer out of a sponge. It also has a direction because of it’s design. That’s something that the designer has made a declaration as to what that thing is. For humanity, that’s what being is.”

“What influences our identity depends on what you believe about humanity… what it is, where it comes from, it depends on your anthropology. But it really doesn’t matter what I believe a human is or not. I’m a human whether I believe I’m a human or not. There are some things that are matters of fact that we have a hard time believing. In fact, we’d often rather believe the lie than the fact. Identity isn’t a matter of opinion. It’s a matter of fact. It’s a declaration that defines being. The big question becomes ‘Who gets to make the declaration? Who has the authority to declare identity?’ I think everybody agrees that identity is a matter of fact. The disagreement begins to emerge when we ask the question, ‘Who has the authority?’ There are two choices we have on who has the authority. Either we are hand made creations of God himself, the God of the Bible, or we are whatever we say we are.”

“The world we live in right now is a world that rejects authority… it really is coming to the surface that the only trustworthy authority in life is me--my opinion, my declaration--and so I can declare that I am a tree and you can’t argue with me about it. I’m just going to branch out and leaf my own life.”

“We often take a facet of identity and elevate it to the ultimate defining characteristic of our identity and it was never designed to do that in the first place.”

“There’s a verse in the Scriptures that says, ‘For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works which he prepared beforehand for us that we should walk in them’ (Eph 2:10). In that verse you get identity as something that is received, not something that is achieved or decided upon. Once I receive this identity I live it out by faith. The identity is received because I as a human have been acted upon by a Creator God that designed me for unique things. As we come together under the name of Jesus Christ together, each of our designs and giftings compliment each other, and so together as the Body of Christ we end up functioning as if Jesus was still on the earth. We actually become his body. It’s almost like Jesus has never left.”

“If God designed you to be like a saw and he designed me to be like a hammer I don’t have to compete with your identity. You saw the boards apart and I nail them together.”

“I have already been defined by a Creator God who knows way more about life and identity than I do. Being a follower of Jesus isn’t just about going to heaven and doing what the Bible says. It’s also understanding that God didn’t run me through a machine, crank me out and mass produce us. We are his handcrafted, unique creations, each of us. As a result, if we are handcrafted and unique, then we have a function. Do you know what your function is?”

“Identity is more of an issue of humility and trust than it is an issue of method or technique. Are you willing to trust that God is a better designer of you than you are of yourself?”

“If God has designed me this way, for the church and for others, how can I best do this for other people? You have to begin with giving away your design as a place to start.”

“Identities aren’t built. I really do believe they are something that we receive.”

“Identity is received, believed, and then lived out. In that order. If you’ve built an identity around anything, whether that’s your job, your spouse, your popularity, your grades, your accomplishment, or any of that stuff. If you’ve built an identity, you haven't built an identity. You’ve built an idol.”

“Every single one of us already--right now--has a strong, stable, Biblical foundation in spades! God went to great lengths to provide that for us. That feeling of instability that you’re referencing isn’t really instability, it’s insecurity.”

“I can’t unmake what God has made, even if I go off trying to do my own thing. He will teach me. He loves me. He’s going to train and disciple me into the design that He’s made me to be. It’s very much His grace not just to save me, but to do the good works that He has designed for me to do.”

“When you understand that the Bible teaches that identity is something that’s bestowed, that God gives, and that it’s not attached to our activity, it gives you so much freedom.”

“God is faithful. He can continue to restore and establish us. Not because we’re so great, but because of the blood of Jesus. He’s already paved that road for us so that it’s not a minefield that we have to walk hoping that the next step doesn’t end things for us.”

“The issue in the garden was Adam and Eve, not having the humility to receive what God gave them. Instead, they put themselves in a position where they were enticed by the fact that they could know what God knows. As a result, that separation from God, where I’m going to trust my intuition before I ever trust God’s word, that’s what sin is in me, where I am the judge of what’s right and wrong. I am the judge of good and evil… Sin at its very core is me being the very judge of everything: God, other people, things, life itself, when I can’t be that. I’ve elevated myself to a position that I have no idea and am in no position to steward.”

“When we have the humility and we say, ‘God, you know more about life than I do. You are the Author of everything, I have some strong feelings about the way that life should be lived, but I am going to have some humility, submission and trust here, and I am going to trust that your way is better than mine.’ That is how you live out the Biblical passages (on identity) in a practical sense. It’s not, ‘I’m going to work harder, do this more, or be this more,’ though there is a place for some disciplines to help you be in a position to believe and trust, but the ultimate goal is to be, ‘Do I trust that God did his best with me? Do I believe that he didn't make a mistake?’ That’s hard for us. Especially for those of us that have really tough stuff in our lives.”

“If we really want to live out these passages on identity, they have to be believed first before they can ever be lived out.”

“Identity is not an achievement. It’s bestowed to us, declared over us by God, then we trust and believe that what he says is true, even in spite of all the silly things we’ve done… and then because we believe him, we live it out.”

“A mature identity is one who has received and is grateful for who I am--who I be.”

“If it’s a declaration that determines being then I receive that and I am grateful for it. That’s a mature identity. An immature identity is still striving and working to try and build whereas the mature identity is one that has believed.”

“The world around us is going to distort the Gospel. Even within our churches, para-church ministries, and our groups. It’s so hard not to be distracted by the world around us. So much of the New Testament exhorts us to be wary of that and so we have to be mindful that it can affect our identities as well.”

“Sin wants to isolate us. When we think that we’re the only authority on things we will isolate ourselves from everyone else and we’ll think we are right, or that we’re the best, and that won’t lead you to a right understanding nor a right understanding of God’s design of you. Community helps to confirm and reinforce our identity.”

“The difficulties in life are great litmus tests for our faith, not just our faith in God, but also that God’s design of us is right.”

“When it comes to your calling, you will always persevere.”

“80% of people in the world don’t get to have jobs that are their passion. In my experience, most people don’t like their jobs. But what you do for your job isn’t where your fulfillment is or where you get your sense of identity. It should transcend and supercede your job. It should be something that you do outside your job. You should be doing what you're designed to do outside of your job anyway.”

“A vocation is a way to earn money and provide for my family. It’s a way for me to exercise my gifts and my abilities to God’s glory, but it’s not all of who I am and what my identity is. That really sets us free to take risks. If our identity isn’t going to be well used in my vocation that’s fine, I can find somewhere else to put my gifts to use. I am going to do whatever God’s called me to do whether I’m getting paid to do it or not.”

 

Matt's Resources

Being in the Scriptures

The Body of Christ

Remembering: “Who am I and what am I doing here?”

 

Matt's Simple Joys

A well placed golf shot

Bluebell Ice Cream

Exhaustion after a hard day’s work

 

Connect with Matt


SPONSORSHIP DETAILS

 

Diana Carter founded Because I'm His in 2016 in the midst of a paralyzing season of anxiety and panic. What started as means of survival in her journal eventually turned into an Instagram account she used to process a season of hopelessness. The only way to silence the lies attacking her identity was to speak back to them with the truth of who she was in Christ.

And so, Because I'm His was born.

Because I’m His is a community of women rooted in their Biblical identities and walking in the fullness of that reality. Through daily devotions, vulnerable storytelling and biblical truths, Because I’m His exists to equip women to know their true identities and walk in the fullness of that reality.

Follow @becauseimhis on Instagram and visit their website at becauseimhis.com.


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ep.17 on living a gospel centered life

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ep. 17 | Living a Gospel Centered Life with Lexy Sauvé

Lexy Sauvé lives in Ogden, Utah, with her family where God’s called her to be a helper to her husband Brian, a homemaker, and momma to Ari Judah, Ira Lewis and Daphne Maeve. She also serves alongside her husband in ministry at Refuge Church in Riverdale, Utah. She enjoys spending as much time in God’s Word as she can, journaling, cooking, reading, visiting as many coffee shops as she can, and going on adventures with her kiddos. She has a degree in Creative Writing and sees her pen as a way to share what God’s been teaching her with others. As Contributing Editor for Deeply Rooted, Lexy spends a lot of time behind the scenes writing articles and excerpts for the website and magazine. She also reviews submissions, conducts interviews, and brainstorms new ideas for the magazine and website. Lexy and I connected through Deeply Rooted Magazine and our mutual friend, Dianne Jago, who was on episode 14 of the podcast. Today we’re chatting about the Gospel and how we need it every minute of every day. It’s one of my favorite conversations yet. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did!

If I could go back in time and start the Journeywomen podcast over again, I would one hundred percent begin here. As we continue to dive into different topics I want more than anything for you to know that walking in grace of the Gospel is the heartbeat of the Journeywomen podcast. Please, continue to hold me to that as we continue. I am so grateful to be on this journey with you all! Go, walk in the grace of the Gospel today, my friends, for the glory of God. Hop over to @journeywomenpodcast on Instagram or Facebook for more Gospel-filled reminders throughout the week. As always, be sure to subscribe to the Journeywomen podcast on iTunes so you don’t miss out on next week’s episode. See you Monday!

  1. Can you share a little about who you are and what you do?

  2. Today we're discussing Gospel centered living. Before we get any further, what is the Gospel?

  3. What does it mean to live with the Gospel at the center of our lives? Why do we need to live this way?

  4. Can we flesh that out practically? What does this actually look like for you?

  5. What's at risk if we fail to live in light of the Gospel daily?

  6. If someone's eyes are being opened to see that they have mistakenly moved on from the Gospel what would you encourage them to do?

  7. How can we practice this in the context of community?

  8. How can we teach our disciples to live in light of the Gospel? How about our kids?

  9. What's the joy and benefit of living this way?

  10. How has growing in this discipline impacted your life personally and shaped you as a believer?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for Gospel centered living?

  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?

  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

The Gospel is what happens when you believe in Christ and he takes our sin and we get his righteousness.”

2 Corinthians 3:18 challenged Lexy to live a gospel-centered life: “And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit” (ESV).

“You have to have the time in your schedule to meditate on the gospel. If we’re so busy, because it’s not the most practical thing to stop and preach the gospel to yourself. But it also wasn’t the most practical thing for Christ to put his life on the cross for us.”

“Paul talks a lot about how the law is a ministry of death. If we’re looking at our list of to-do’s or a list of things that culture tells us we need in order to be righteous, it will automatically breed death in our lives. It truly is only by looking at Christ and the gospel that we will be transformed.”

 “This whole gospel centrality thing isn’t really new. The Church has been fighting for this for hundreds of years.”

“Christ’s obedience of worship and suffering is to my account. I don’t need to figure out how to suffer correctly, it’s not about my suffering it is about Christ’s suffering.”

“We must ask ourselves, ‘How was Christ obedient for me, in my place, in this situation?’”

“When we look at other people instead of looking to Christ we have one or two options: either pride because we think we’re better than them, or despair, because we don’t think we measure up.” Lexy said she derived this idea from Elyse Fitzpatrick’s writing (linked below).

“I claim to know nothing among you except for Christ and Christ crucified.” -Paul

“Turn back to Christ and figure out how he can meet you in that place. Look at what is the well that you have dug for yourself that should be Christ?”

“Repentance is a quick sort of sadness that quickly leads to much quicker joy in Christ.”

“Works don’t come before faith. Works come after faith. They are evidence of faith.”

Lexy’s suggestions for living in light of the gospel in the context of community:

  1. Be IN community

  2. Be in close proximity to your community

 James 4:6 our humility attracts the grace of Christ.

“Humility will teach way more than acting like you have it all together as a parent.”

“I find myself praying that God would even use my sins against them (my kids)  for their good.”

 “It’s grace that trains us in godliness. Not our works.”

 

LEXY's Resources

Commentary on Galatians by Martin Luther

Counsel from the Cross by Elyse Fitzpatrick

Douglas Wilson and his daughters for understanding gospel centered living in response to having right gospel thoughts — church’s women’s conferences

 

Lexy's Simple Joys

living with noble limitations

coffee at noon

a stack of books ready for reading

 

Connect with Lexy


SPONSORSHIP DETAILS

Diana Carter founded Because I'm His in 2016 in the midst of a paralyzing season of anxiety and panic. What started as a personal means of survival  found only in her journal eventually turned into an Instagram account used to process a season in which she felt isolated, hopeless and stuck. The only way to silence the lies attacking her identity was to speak back to them with the truth of who she was in Christ. When the account began to take off as a viable means of encouragement for women, she knew the Lord was redeeming her pain. And so, Because I'm His was born. Because I’m His is an online community of women rooted in their Biblical identities and walking in the fullness of that reality. Through daily devotions, vulnerable storytelling and biblical truths, Because I’m His exists to equip women to know their true identities. Visit becauseimhis.com and use the code JOURNEYWOMEN before September 30th for a buy-one-get-one-free deal on custom prints! And don’t forget to follow along on Instagram @becauseimhis.

 


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ep.16 on sibling relationships

Hayden Langemeier

ep. 16 | Sibling Relationships with Hayden Langemeier

On today’s episode of the Journeywomen podcast I’m interviewing Hayden Langemeier.

Hayden is a senior at the University of Arkansas studying Communication with a minor in Recreation and Sports Management. She is passionate about challenging culture that is second nature with the goal of producing a more authentic, selfless, and submitted generation of believers. Hayden comes from an incredible family—some of you may have heard her mom as she shared about forgiveness on episode 01 of the Journeywomen podcast—so I asked Hayden to chat with us about family dynamics and her relationship with her parents and siblings.

The goal of building and maintaining healthy relationships with our families is to point people to Jesus by the way we love one another. I know some of you have broken families and some of you have experienced really unhealthy family dynamics. That’s exactly why I asked Hayden to share her experience with us today. While most of what we discuss is method based, it’s an invaluable opportunity for us to catch a glimpse into what it looks like to grow up in a home with the aim of glorifying God together. I hope you’ll walk away encouraged to build relationships with your close people, whether they’re your biological family, adopted family, or your sisters and brothers in Christ.

I wasn’t expecting a conversation on family dynamics to disciple me in the ways of human communication but it DID! I loved Hayden’s encouragement to be diligent in the little things, especially in our interactions with our close people. If you’d like to connect with Hayden you can find her information below.

Be sure to subscribe to the Journeywomen podcast on iTunes and while you’re there, leave us a review! Thanks again for listening. I’ll see you here next Monday!

  1. Tell me who you are and what you’re doing now.

  2. Let’s chat about your family. Are you guys close?

  3. Have you always had close relationship with your parents/siblings?

  4. From your perspective, what did your parents do to cultivate a healthy relationship with you? What about your siblings?

  5. What are some things your parents did/modeled that you want to do when you have a family of your own?

  6. Are there any specific behaviors or dynamics that you’ve seen modeled, whether it be in your own family or a friend’s, that will inhibit healthy, close family relationships?

  7. My friends and I have noticed that mother/daughter relationships can be particularly tricky. What do you feel like your mom did really well when it came to your relationship? Now that you’re an adult, what do boundaries look like for ya’ll?

  8. Now that you’re in college, has your relationship with your parents changed at all?

  9. How about your siblings? How do ya’ll maintain closeness even though you’re separated in proximity?

  10. What are some things that your parents did during your upbringing that you attribute to your success?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for someone wanting to develop their relationships with their siblings or parents?

  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?

  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“In everything they did, they cultivated togetherness.” 

“A lot of times for our discipline past the age of seven we actually did work around our house. We would work for 30 minutes cleaning baseboards or pulling weeds or whatever mom said. It took work off their hands and produced a harder work ethic within us and also provided us an opportunity to work together.”

“They really taught us how to have relationships through modeling it and through communicating about how to communicate, for example, how to have conflict. If I was having conflict with my sister my mom would coach me on the basics of conflict by saying, “Okay, you’re mad at your sister. You need to approach her at a time of non conflict and prepare her heart by saying, ‘Hey, I have something I need to talk to you about in a few hours.’” They taught us how to have conflict and how to encourage one another. Healthy, basic communication skills that are super simple but that we often forget in our relationships.”

“We saw them reconcile as well as fight. And that’s probably the most important part. Seeing reconciliation happen in conjunction with healthy conflict.”

“I’d say first of all healthy reconciliation looked like either owning my side of the problem or seeing both of my parents own their sides of the problem.”

“Always seek to be the first one to apologize. It takes two people to fight. There’s always something you can find that is your fault.”  

“You have to learn to wake up, look over at each other, and choose to love each other every single day—choose to serve one another when we don’t feel like it—and choose not speak poorly about one another to our parents, siblings, or best friends.”

“We want people to understand us for our intentions, but other people take us at surface level and don’t always understand our intentions. A lot of times this leads us to the root of conflict in our communication.”  

“Be diligent in pursuing intimacy in the little things.”

 “My parents were really diligent in the small things, including discipline and behavior. I know for me personally, even though they were really diligent, they were the most grace giving about the big things. Secondly, everything was a conversation. That cultivated intimacy because I didn’t see my parents as the bad guy. They were always seeking to explain things from a logical and spiritual perspective.”

 “They did really hard work for 18 years and then said, ‘Go.’”

“My recommendation for developing better relationships with your parents or your siblings is to serve them. Serving even when I don’t want to has been the most powerful tool for strengthening any relationship.”

 

Hayden's Resources

Serving Your Family 

 

Hayden's Simple Joys

Cooking

Traveling

Anything new


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ep.15 on fitness and nutrition for God’s glory

Amanda Wilson

ep. 15 | Fitness and Nutrition for God’s Glory with Amanda Wilson

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with Amanda Wilson.
 
Amanda is wife to Lee, mama to two boys, and a foster mom. Before kids she worked as an RN where her passion for overall wellness was ignited when she realized it was the very thing that could change the trajectory of many of the "health problems" she saw in the medical field. Now she loves equipping and encouraging others to be stewards of their bodies in practical and realistic ways, and finding individual wellness rhythms. Coffee, peanut butter, and chocolate are some of her food "happies", and she is always finding a way to sneak them into her day. 

I asked Amanda to be a guest on the show because she’s not only passionate about fitness, but about glorifying God as well. This is one of my personal passions and I am so excited to welcome you into our conversation today. 

  1. Tell me a little about who you are and what you do. 
  2. When did you first get interested in fitness? 
  3. Why do you workout? So often Christian women have such a disconnect when it comes to their walk with the Lord and their physical fitness or body image. Why is that? 
  4. Have you always viewed health and fitness as a means by which to glorify God? If not, when did that mental shift happen for you? When did you make the connection that you can glorify God in all that you do, even eating and drinking?
  5. What would you say to someone who has a tendency to workout as punishment, for example, because they’ve eaten too much, failed their diet, or stepped on the scale and saw a higher number than they were comfortable with?
  6. Is goal setting important in regard to fitness and health? If so, how do you suggest we approach setting physical goals as believers? What are some examples of healthy goals?
  7. Are there certain tips or tricks you’ve learned along the way that might help people move towards their fitness/health/nutrition goals?
  8. Looking back, what would you say to your college self about fitness and nutrition? 
  9. For those of us who have families, can you make any recommendations for pursuing fitness and health as a lifestyle/doing it together (incorporating husbands/kids)?
  10. Can you offer those of us in busy seasons, like mothering young kids, working long hours, or studying for finals, some encouragement for when we fail to meet our goals?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend?

  2. What are your 3 simple joys?

  3. As a journeywoman, who is the most impactful person in your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“I think when women try to focus on health and fitness if they don’t have a good foundation they can start treading the waters of obsession. When they realize it’s taking precedence of their walk with God they often reel it back in and completely lose track of their health and fitness all together. There’s a balance that isn't really talked about. Our relationship with God certainly has a connection with how we steward our bodies.” 
 
“If you’re being a good steward of your body it does translate into other areas of your life. You’ll be able to do things with excellence, which is what we’ve been commanded to do. It should be our pursuit as believers. In Romans 12 it talks about a transformation coming from the renewal of the mind and that doesn’t leave out the section of life regarding stewarding our bodies.”
 
“There is something really powerful about caring and nurturing for our bodies, because that means we’re being good stewards of the very thing that will allow us to carry out the roles and works that God has called us to do.” 
 
“We can overcome emotions with the truth of what we know and follow that until our feelings catch up. If we have a foundation as to what knowledge then we can overcome emotion when we don’t feel like it or when we don’t feel motivated. Wanting to look fit isn’t going to carry you through seasons of your life where you should be paying attention to your health.” 
 
“If a lifestyle of health and fitness is going to be sustainable, it cannot be your identity or something you idolize by making it your standard instead of making God your standard and then functioning under Him.” 
 
“When you know who you are and whose you are, then you are be able to function within freedom and be able to approach health and fitness in a way that’s glorifying to God. That will not allow those things to put standards and expectations that create bondage.” 
 
“I know who I am in Christ. My value is not dictated at all by my failures, the shape or size of my body. My value is in Christ. Knowing that, I can function in freedom and joyfully pursue health and fitness without bondage.”
 
“Our emotional response to things is telling of what’s in our hearts.”
 
“Goals have to be sustainable and attainable.”

 

AMANDA's Resources

@shutthekaleup

@alexia_clark

@thenaturalnurturer | thenaturalnurturer.com

@BalancedBitesPodcast | balancedbites.com

 

 

Amanda's Simple Joys

Bible Study at a Coffee Shop

Walking Outside in the morning with her cup of coffee

Walking around the farmer’s market in Fayetteville

 

Connect with Amanda


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ep.14 on pursuing a dream

ep. 14 | Pursuing a Dream with Dianne Jago

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with Dianne Jago. Dianne is a Christ-follower, military wife, mama of 3, and the founder of Deeply Rooted Magazine. She and her family live in an 1850's farmhouse located in Central PA. On a personal note, I’ve been itching to have a conversation with her about pursuing a dream since I began planning the launch of the Journeywomen podcast!

We talked about what to consider before pursuing a dream, how doing so impacts our families, and our ultimate goals for Journeywomen and Deeply Rooted Magazine. Dianne encouraged me to hold my dreams open handedly before the Lord, because there’s beauty in dreaming, but even more beauty in what Christ is doing to redeem his people. Below are the questions I asked Dianne as well as how you can connect with her on social media and through the magazine.

  1. For those who don’t know you, tell us a little about who you are and what you do.
  2. When did you start dreaming about creating a magazine?
  3. At the time, would you say you felt called by God to start a magazine? How did you know you were within the Lord’s will to move forward?
  4. Does the Gospel free us up to dream? If so, how?
  5. How do you know when to move forward with pursuing your dream? What kind of things would you look for to determine whether or not you should shelve it for a different season of life or maybe even let it die?
  6. Were there other elements in your decision making process before launching the magazine? Looking back, what things do you wish you would have considered or known?
  7. Has pursuing your dream always been easy? If not, what kept you going when things became difficult?
  8. A lot of people have told me that Journeywomen will take as much time as I want to give it. Do you find that to be true? How do you set boundaries with your work? How do you balance running the magazine, helping Ethan, mothering, and serving in your local church?
  9. What encouragement do you have for someone who has a dream?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend to someone who is pursuing a dream?

  2. What are your 3 simple joys?

  3. As a journeywoman, who is the most impactful person in your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“I believe he’s called me to it, but I don’t know if I necessarily felt called when the idea came to mind.”

“When I think about the Gospel I think of dying to self. I think about submitting my will over and asking God to be the Lord of my life, which looks like dying to my ambitions. That is so counter-cultural in a world that screams self promotion, success, and showing your highlight reels. I believe that the Gospel completely changes our views on success and that gives us the freedom to be okay with whatever the outcome of our dream is. If our dream proves to be successful it’s to his glory. And if it doesn’t prove to be successful it is still to his glory.”

 “When Jesus becomes our absolute delight, we’re free to follow wherever he calls us.”

 Dianne’s clarifying questions regarding pursuing a dream:

  1. Is this Biblical?
  2. Have I seriously prayed about it and given myself time to consider it?

  3. What season of life am I in?

  4. Have we sought counsel in this?

  5. What does my walk with God look like right now?

  6. Am I willing to surrender this dream and this idea to God?

“You might be spinning a lot of plates and your family has to be on board with that, but as long as you’re keeping your first callings first and maintain your main priorities, there’s room to make mistakes and to figure out what works best for you and for you as a family.” 

“It’s always shifting. Being a little bit fluid and flexible and having grace on one another and being open to saying, ‘Hey, I haven’t seen you in a little bit, can you close the laptop so we can get time together,’ or just me being lazy and him saying, ‘Hey you actually need to get work done, you’ve been hanging out on the couch watching Netflix with me too much.’”

“Something that I’ve learned over the years is that I don’t have to do everything.”  

Tips for protecting her priorities:

  1. Having a quiet time.

  2. Scheduling time to spend with her spouse.

  3. Being able to accept that she can’t do everything.

“Apart from Jesus we are nothing. We are just a withering branch. We have to be abiding in him. We have to be connected to him.”

“I am not better than what I’m calling other people to be. I need Jesus. Period.”

“Christ’s legacy is the only one that lasts.”

 “There’s beauty in dreaming, but there’s more beauty in Christ and what he’s doing to redeem his people.”

 

Dianne's Resources

Ordinary by Michael Horton

Just Do Something by Kevin DeYoung

A Passion for the Impossible: The Life of Lilias Trotter

Lilias Trotter Amazon Documentary

 

Dianne's Simple Joys

Her ducks

Mojito mint water with freshly squeezed limes

Simple spiritual questions from her kids

 

Connect with Dianne


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ep.13 on bible journaling

ep. 13 | Bible Journaling with Jennifer  Evangelista

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with Jennifer Evangelista.

Jennifer is a pastor’s wife, mother, pediatrician, and the face behind Grace in Color, an online ministry where she teaches women to use their creativity to grow in their faith and truth of the Gospel. Her passion is teaching busy women that there are different ways they can study, pray and learn from God and that’s exactly what we’re going to talk about today! 

I hope you’ll connect with Jen via Grace in Color at the links below. She also has a free Creative Bible Study Challenge for anyone interested in getting a small taste of different ways to actually use some creative ideas in your study of the scriptures!  

Here are the questions we covered in our conversation:

  1. Tell us a little about your personal faith story and how you got into art journaling.

  2. Can you share with us about what art journaling is?

  3. What does your personal time spent with God look like and how do you incorporate art journaling? Beyond that, what are other ways of creatively connecting with God?

  4. How has your personal journey with creatively connecting with God evolved over time?

  5. How does one find an avenue of creative expression that fits them?

  6. What would you say to a less creative type who doesn’t see a need for trying this?

  7. What are important things to keep in mind for someone just getting started with trying a new way to connect with God?

  8. How does discipline play into connecting creatively with God?

  9. Where do I begin in learning how to art journal?

  10. Are there specific tools someone needs to get started in art journaling (i.e. pens, paper, tools, etc.)?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend to someone who is learning how to connect creatively with God themselves OR encouraging others in that process?

  2. What are your 3 simple joys?

  3. As a journeywoman, who is the most impactful person in your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“The best thing is to sit down and start with the Word of God first, instead of starting from a study.”

“I can hardly draw a stick person. That’s not what I’ve been gifted with. But I can put things together in a colorful way that means something to me in reference to what I’m studying.”

“Art journaling is anything you want it to be. It is water color, paint, colored pencil, pen and paper, chalk, or collage, it is anything you want it to be. You can do that just for creation’s sake just for fun. I don’t want anyone to think that everything has to be so super spiritual in this practice. You can just play. But then when you take it and put it together with your study of the Word of God, you always start with the Word of God first.”

“I start with the Bible first. The purpose of the art is to 1) reflect on the Scripture and 2) slow me down enough to not just zip by any truth that God may have for me. As I’m doodling or drawing or writing down the verses in the margins of my Bible, cutting, pasting, or putting things together, the entire time I’m reflecting on that passage and gaining new insights on the Word of God. Then I’ll move on from there and study Biblically and theologically sound commentaries or sermons after I’ve looked at the Word itself. Then, sometimes I’ll take the things I’ve learned from supplementary texts and go back and use them to artistically embellish what I’ve already done.”

“The bottom line is we forget the Gospel. We forget the truth of God’s Word every single day. Let’s just be honest, we wake up in the morning and we hit the road running… we all have very full lives and we forget the basic truths of the Gospel and we forget how much we are in need of complete and utter rescue every single day and that that has been done for us. Because that has been done for us we can walk in his glory and follow his commands, not because of us, but because of what he’s done. Part of following his commands is studying is Word and this is what works for me.”

“If you are struggling to find time for Bible study… if you find it harder and harder to tackle that, then you may need to look at how you’re tackling it. If you are sitting down with your study and maybe you’re going through a dry period and you’re feeling like what you’re hearing is just words on a page, you have to remember that the Word of God is living and breathing and that it speaks to us. It’s not about how you feel, it’s more about what God is speaking to you, not in a woo-woo kind of way, but if you are not seeing things differently when you’re looking at a passage of Scripture than you’ve always seen it before, then maybe you need to look at it a little differently.”  

“It doesn’t have to be a ton of time or a ton of deep theology, it just has to be you being willing to open yourself up to the truth that is there and that is waiting for you. If you don't dive in a little bit deeper, then really you have no way of learning it and hearing God’s Word. We have to choose the one path he’s given us to hear his Word, which is the Bible.”

“Obedience, even when it lacks desire, actually leads to satisfaction. And more importantly it leads to God’s glory. Which in turn increases your yearning to obey.”

“We live in a distracted time. I’m going to challenge us to say that although we do live in a distracted time, we don’t live in a more difficult time than anybody ever has to practice this discipline. 400 years ago we had to work from sunup to sun down to get food on our tables. All of the excuses that we have—and I have them too—we have to somehow take those, see them for what they are, and figure out a way to battle that… I’ve found that actually scheduling time for Bible study because if I don’t have it on my schedule, a lot of times I put it off.”

“Reprioritizing so that Bible study is part of our day is critical. Because I’m visual and tactile, if I just sit and read my mind tends to wander. Putting pen to paper, whether it’s art journaling or just journaling, enriches my time.”

“Find what works for you and how you connect with God in the stage that you are in.”

“As you write and visualize Scripture you can take it and display it somewhere after you’ve created it and it’s a visual reminder of that Scripture and you repeat it over and over and over again.”

“It’s the blank page that scares us. When you’re starting with anything like this, get a cheap journal like a composition book so you have no monetary commitment in that thing. Photo copy the Scripture, paste it in there, and just start writing or drawing. Just put something on that blank page. When it’s no longer a blank notebook it frees you up to keep pushing on. There are no mistakes when it comes to art journaling. You can always cover it up if you really have to. Or just keep going!”

Tools needed: something to write on and something to write with and your Bible. That’s it! Use what you already have! Eventually if you are of the mind or desire to actually do things in your Bible, the ESV Interleaved Bible is really cool, but you don’t have to start there.”  

“As long as you start and end with the Word, everything in the between is all good.”

 

Jennifer's Resources

ESV Single Column Journaling Bible

ESV Interleaved Bible

YouTube Bible Journaling Tutorials

Illustrated Faith on YouTube

Sermons and articles from trusted pastors who are Theologically sound

 

Jennifer's Simple Joys

When her kid’s get along and enjoy one another

Connecting with women in her church and online

Time to create (with coffee and good creamer, of course)

 

 

Connect with Jennifer

 

Sponsors

Today’s episode of the Journeywomen Podcast is sponsored by White Pepper Ink, a custom-scripting canvas and wood company founded by Amanda Nicholson. You can find her work on Instagram and Facebook. To custom order, email Amanda at whitepepperink@gmail.com and if you mention hearing about the shop on the Journeywomen podcast, you will get 10% off a canvas of your choice if you order through the second week of August 2017.


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Photo credit for Bible Art: Truth Lettering

ep.12 on waiting

ep. 12 | Waiting with Ann Swindell

On today's episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with Ann Swindell.

Ann is an author and speaker whose first book, Still Waiting: Hope for When God Doesn't Give You What You Want, just released with Tyndale House Publishers. Her work has appeared in The Gospel Coalition, CT Women, RELEVANT, Deeply Rooted, Desiring God, Darling Magazine, and (in)courage, among others. Ann writes about the intersection of daily life and God's love on her website, annswindell.com. She holds an MA in Writing and an MFA in Creative Nonfiction Writing and is passionate about helping other writers tell their stories powerfully. Ann teaches faith-based, online writing courses at writingwithgrace.com. I was actually introduced to this dear friend of mine through her Writing With Grace course, which taught me a lot about writing in general, but more specifically, how to share my story in light of the hope we have in the gospel. I’m so excited to have her with us today on the Journeywomen podcast to share her story of waiting and to help us better understand how we can share our stories in light of the gospel.

The way Ann communicates her story of waiting in her book, Still Waiting, has stuck with me since I read it. I hope you will connect with her on social media and purchase her book! You can find the links to both by scrolling down. As always, thanks for all of the love and support you guys extend to the Journeywomen podcast! If you want to know how you can help the show, be sure to head over to iTunes and write a review. The directions for how to do so are on the podcast tab of the website. Here are the questions Ann and I covered during our time together. Thanks again for listening and I’ll see you here, next week!

  1. Ann, for those who aren’t familiar with you, can you explain a little bit about who you are and what you do?
  2. Could you share about your story and your journey with Trich?
  3. At the beginning of this journey, how did you view yourself and what you were going through?
  4. At what point did your understanding change to accepting the waiting process? What caused this change?
  5. How has this condition taught you about the Gospel?
  6. How has this changed your views on suffering?
  7. What was the hardest truth to embrace during that time?
  8. Were there things that hindered your ability to trust God in the waiting?
  9. How did others come alongside you in your waiting?
  10. When someone is experiencing something difficult like what you’ve been through, how do you encourage them?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend to someone who is in a season of waiting themselves OR walking alongside someone who finds themselves waiting?
  2. What are your 3 simple joys?
  3. As a journeywoman, who is the most impactful person in your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“We all have something in our lives that isn’t whole. Most of us live on a daily basis with some reality of pain because of the places that aren’t healed and whole yet. We’re asking God to come through and maybe he just hasn’t healed that part of our lives yet. Still Waiting is really about ‘What do we do with those places where we’re waiting for God to break through? How do we live well in the waiting and continue to trust him, even if he doesn’t answer our prayer the way we want him to?’” 

“Jesus you are better than any healing, than anything I want and I don’t understand you, but I can trust you because of your character and your kindness and your love towards me.”

 “My hope is no longer in, ‘Am I going to get healed?’ My hope is in the person of Jesus.”

“‘How is the Gospel here? How is Jesus in this?’ Because there’s never any place where he abandons us. It’s not like he says, ‘I love all of you except for this one little part.’ He loves us and is always in the process of making us new and restoring us.” 

“God is a good Father. He only points out our brokenness and reveals it to us because he wants to heal it.”

“God has brought this up time and time again not to say, ‘Ann, look at how weak you are or how you’ve failed,’ but Trich has always been something he’s brining up because he wants to see me healed. For me it hasn’t been a physical healing yet, but I can tell you that the amount of emotional and spiritual healing that God has brought about from my persistent weakness—which I don’t want to have—but he keeps brining it back up because there are new layers for me to trust him and to see him as my strength in my weakness.”  

“Jesus does enter into suffering with all of us no matter what it is. He understands what the cost has been to us in a way that nobody else is ever going to understand.”

“I have found the hard way that when I focus on the suffering, when I focus on the loss, I spiral to a very bad place, because all it feels like is darkness and loss and trial and aloneness. Now, don’t get me wrong, there are seasons when even Biblically we see people like David experiencing feelings of isolation, but for me, one of the hardest lessons that I continue to learn in my life with Christ is that suffering itself does not get the privilege of being at the center of my attention. In my flesh, that’s what I want to do. I want to focus on the pain. I want to fall into it and let myself feel all the feelings… don’t get me wrong, there are seasons for legitimate grieving. But we live in a culture that is so feelings based it’s easy to say, ‘Woe is me.’ But the truth is that a lot of the Gospel is the reality that life is hard and God is good.”

“A lot of the Gospel is the simultaneous reality that life is hard and God is good.”

“The only way I know how to walk that out is to stay rooted in the Word of God and to have a community of people around me who are going to speak the truth to me even when I don’t want to hear it.”  

“Even when my heart didn’t know what it wanted that is what I craved: to know God and to cling to his character. That for me has been the hardest part of suffering and also the pearl of great price.”  

“We have to get around other people who are going to declare the truth of who God is to us when we don’t feel it and when we feel like we can’t hear it. And we’ve got to do that for other people. The reality is there is going to come a day when we’re going to help our brothers and sisters hear that truth, because there’s also going to be a day when we’re in the middle of that circle weeping on our knees and we need somebody else in the body of Christ to speak the truth to us. That’s what the Body is there for. The gift of suffering to me has been to see my consistent need for the body of Christ and the Word of God.”

“How can we love each other and live with each other in the now and the not yet that we have Christ, but we’re still broken. Physical brokenness points out the reality of our spiritual brokenness. How do we love one another in seasons of long pain or suffering? It’s hard, and we need lots of help.”

“You’re going to have to go first and be the one to crack open the door to vulnerability and honesty and to risk sharing your story with another person because you love Jesus more than you love what they think about you.”

“I so want to tell of who he is and how he has changed me not because I look great, but because he is wonderful. I want that freedom and that hope for my friends. But that means that I have to go first and be willing to say, ‘Here’s where my brokenness is and here’s where Jesus met me in the brokenness.’ I’m not getting to say, ‘Here is my brokenness and here’s how Jesus fixed me!’ But I am getting to say, ‘Here’s my brokenness and here’s how Jesus met me here.’”

“Talking about Jesus is worth any cost to us. It’s worth the cost of our reputation, it’s worth the cost of our facades, it’s worth the cost of us feeling like we have some social media presence or whatever we want to call it. Because when Jesus is lifted up, people will be drawn to him. It’ll feel like it’s at our expense, but really it’s for our good. Because any time Jesus is life up we fall more in love with him and so do other people.” 

“Faithfulness on earth might look really simple. But to God it means everything.”

 

Ann's Resources for Discipleship

Streams in the Desert by Cowman

Getting into a consistent Bible Study

The Weight of Glory by C.S. Lewis

 

Ann's Simple Joys

Her daughter and husband laughing

Walking outside when the weather is perfect

Date nights with her husband

Watching shows like “The Great British Baking Show” or “When Calls the Heart”

 

 

Connect with Ann

 

Sponsors

Today’s episode of the Journeywomen Podcast is sponsored by White Pepper Ink, a custom-scripting canvas and wood company founded by Amanda Nicholson. You can find her work on Instagram and Facebook. To custom order, email Amanda at whitepepperink@gmail.com and if you mention hearing about the shop on the Journeywomen podcast, you will get 10% off a canvas of your choice if you order through the second week of August 2017.


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ep.11 on decorating and the Gospel

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ep. 11 | Decorating and the Gospel with Laura Wifler

 

Today on Journeywomen I had the privilege of interviewing my friend Laura Wifler of the Risen Motherhood podcast. We talk about everything from how the Gospel relates to decorating to spray painting curtain rods.

Laura has been married for six years, is a mother to three precious little ones and is currently in the process of adopting two more from Eastern Europe. Her writing on motherhood and lifestyle has been featured on popular sites such as BabyCenter, DesignSponge and Scary Mommy. Currently, Laura is co-founder and co-host of Risen Motherhood, a ministry and podcast for women who are striving for gospel-centered motherhood. She likes her coffee black, going on hikes, dabbling in DIY and decorating, reading books with real pages to turn, and having impromptu dance parties in the kitchen with her children. I cannot wait for you guys to hear from her on the topic of decorating! 

Laura has the beautiful skill of tethering something that as seemingly trite as home decor to the beautiful truths of the Gospel. She inspires me to know the foundational elements of the Gospel more and to continue making those connections in everyday facets of life. If you want to connect with Laura and Emily of Risen Motherhood, be sure to do so over at Risen Motherhood at the links below. 

  1. When did you become interested in decorating?
  2. What's the connection between designing/creating and our spirituality? Can you gospel-ize decorating for us?
  3. Can we glorify God through something as simple as decorating? If so, what might that look like? 
  4. Are there practical ways you can intentionally design or decorate a space for the purpose of glorifying God? How? 
  5. What practical decorating tips do you have for women who are single or in college? Young marrieds? Families? 
  6. Do you have any money saving tricks for people who aren't able to invest a lot into decorating their homes?
  7. I have a lot of listeners who are in the military. Do you have any Biblical encouragement (Biblically) for those of us who live very transient lives? How about practical decorating tips for someone who moves often?
  8. What are some pitfalls (sins) to beware of when we're decorating our homes? How can we know if we're walking in holiness as we're engaging in something that often feels worldly?
  9. If someone's listening and they feel convicted about idolizing their home or decorating for selfish gain, what encouragement do you have for them? 
  10. As a Christian, what is the ultimate purpose for design?

 

3 Questions I ask every guest

  1. What are your 3 favorite tools or resources for decorating?
  2. What are 3 of your simple joys in life? (This can be anything!!)
  3. Who has had the greatest impact in your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“Everyone decorates, whether you think you do or not.”

“What do I love and what’s achievable? Those two things can be difficult to marry at times.”

“We know that God loves beauty. He is the inventor of beauty. He embodies all beauty. As image-bearers of God we can see that we get our creativity directly from him.”

“As image-bearers of Christ we can totally embody his love for beauty and of course we also see his love for creativity and beauty in other areas of the Bible. Take the temple or all of the intricacies of the tabernacle, or the beautiful priestly garments and we see that God cares about these things.”

“Great design also takes into account great order and function.”

“We see God’s love for order in time and space, like how the planets rotate and they don’t run into one another; how the tides work; we see it in how he’s designed families with husbands at the head and how children are to obey their parents; we see it in the church and in how the elders and deacons how that’s structured; even in the Old Testament we see it in the Levitical law and the atonements and all of the ceremonies he had and all of the order.” 

“We can image God in his love for beauty and creation and also in his love for order and function.”

“We as believers have a charge to create a home that is a refuge for the people who live there, but ultimately our homes should serve as a platform or a vehicle for the spread the gospel, for the Great Commission and making disciples.” 

“The thing we have to look at is, ‘How do I create a space in the place that we live that loves these people well and feels unique and special to them and also fosters an environment that creates spaces for people to connect and develop relationships.”

“Our highest priority in decorating should be using our homes as a vehicle to participate in the Great Commission.” 

“How can I best use the things that I already have to practice hospitality?” 

“Decorating involves a heart check of saying am I buying this, or am I doing this, or arranging this, am I decorating for God’s glory or for my own? Am I loving myself in this and wanting my own glory or am I loving God and those around me?”

“‘Will people be comfortable here?’ Sometimes that involves sacrificing the style that you want in lieu of something the might be a little more practical for people to enjoy.” 

Laura’s two questions to ask ourselves while decorating: “What materials, fabrics, shapes, and items are best for the makeup of the people who live here?” and “How does the decorating of my home reflect our family’s unique interests, values, or unique giftings?” 

“What are the things that we want to place a high value on and how can I create a place that serves that and makes it easier for everyone in the house for people to enjoy those things?” “

“What do we already have and how can I intentionally display those to make our home more welcoming. That’s all design really is.” 

“We can image God’s love of beauty no matter where we live.” 

“Our homes are places that we do have influence and authority in no matter who lives there or how long we live there we need to love those people well and create spaces where people do feel welcome.”

“As we move through the decorating process we tend to fall into one of two camps: we have either pride about our abilities and we are proud our own glory or our own self for the work that we’ve done in our home, or we have despair about the abilities that we think we lack. Both of these things put glory on ourselves and say, ‘My house, my decorating, my rooms, they’re all about me.’ They're really misplacing where our identity should be found, which is in Christ. Not in our skills or our lack of skills. In those times we’re totally putting ourselves in God’s place: a place where we are never ever meant to be.” 

“Decorating is a neutral tool. It’s not a sinful thing in and of itself. It is how we view and employ them that creates sin in our lives.” 

“The continual heart check involved in decorating should be, ‘Are my motives to create a home that serves God’s glory and God’s purposes, or is it to create my own glorification or for myself so that people are impressed with me?’”

 

Laura’s Resources for Decorating

Friends - use their skills!

Instagram or blogs - use at your own risk - like Style by Emily Henderson

Visiting home stores for inspiration

 

Laura’s Simple Joys

Fast action food videos on Facebook and Instagram

5 AM wake-ups

A good book like Anne of Green Gables, The Harry Potter Series, or The Wingfeather Saga

 

Connect with Laura

 

Sponsors

Today’s episode of the Journeywomen Podcast is sponsored by White Pepper Ink, a custom-scripting canvas and wood company founded by Amanda Nicholson. You can find her work on Instagram and Facebook. To custom order, email Amanda at whitepepperink@gmail.com and if you mention hearing about the shop on the Journeywomen podcast, you will get 10% off a canvas of your choice if you order through the second week of August 2017.


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ep.10 on beauty and how it relates to our spirituality

ep. 10 | Beauty and How It Relates to Our Spirituality with Kelly Stuckey

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the joy of chatting with Kelly Stuckey about beauty and how it relates to our spirituality. Kelly is a follower of Christ, wife to Zach, momma to Everett, small business owner, beauty industry educator, hairdresser, and makeup artist. She recently made the transition from doing hair full-time to being a mom and focusing on the growth and leadership of her team at Crown Beauty Bar. Prior to having her son, Everett, Kelly and Zac struggled with infertility. Kelly shares how her view of beauty expanded when they found out that Everett has the most common form of dwarfism, Achondroplasia. This journey changed her perspective on beauty and taught her to accept that all people are made in the image of God.

As someone who tends to take things too seriously, my lightbulb moment with Kelly happened towards the end of our interview when she said that experiencing beauty should be fun! Duh! I can’t believe I didn’t think of that myself. I hope ya’ll find our conversation as enjoyable as I did. As mentioned, you can find out how to connect with Kelly at the links below. Be sure to drop by her social media accounts, Crown Beauty Bar or Crown Uptown in Fayetteville to let her know what you learned from her today!

  1. Can you share with us a little about who you are, your family, and the story behind Crown Beauty Bar?

  2. How have your thoughts on beauty evolved over the years?

  3. Why do you think we’re drawn to physical beauty? On the flip side, why do some people have an aversion to pursuing physical beauty?

  4. Is there a distinction between outward and inward beauty?

  5. What are some ways we can express our inner beauty outwardly?

  6. How do you pursue physical beauty without obsessing over it?

  7. When do you know that your desire for beauty is becoming vain? Are there signs we should be on the lookout for? How far is too far with beauty routines?

  8. How do you accept the things you can’t change (physically) and balance the cost and effort of changing the things you can?

 

Three questions I ask every guest

  1. What are your top three beauty products/tips/tricks/people to follow/etc?

  2. What are your 3 simple joys?

  3. As a journeywoman, who is the most impactful person in your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“My view of myself changed entirely because I started seeing myself through God’s eyes and not through the world’s eyes.”

“For the longest time my platform was building a brand and all of a sudden my identity grew. I wasn’t just Kelly, follower of Christ, wife to Zac, Crown Beauty owner. I am now a mother.”

“Inner beauty is what makes outer beauty shine."

“So many people are beautiful, but if they can’t operate in kindness, their beauty is dead. There’s no life behind it. True beauty contains life.”

“There are no accidents.”

“Everett changed my life. When I think of beauty, it’s not the way I used to think about it. If you asked me that question five years ago I would tell you that beauty has symmetry, balance, the right mix of colors, or whatever. Now when I see beauty it’s something that’s flourishing in it’s own element in how it was made. That’s what I think of when I think of beauty now.”

“We need to ask ourselves how we define beauty. If that definition comes from a place of pleasing others, pleasing society, meeting societal pressures, matching up to bloggers, or to people we see on Instagram, I would encourage us to take a step back and maybe not look at it for awhile. Really press into asking, ‘Okay, God, how do you see me?’”

“If the pursuit of physical beauty starts to deplete your time and resources, that’s a sign that you may need to reevaluate the importance you’re placing on it.”

“Gratitude and thinking about our health are the two things that we can practice to find peace over the things about ourselves that we can’t change.”

“There are a lot of scriptures that address physical beauty. I don’t take those lightly at all. However, I do think that physical beauty is something that God made and that it’s a way to attract people not just in their physical look, but that it can attract them to him.”

“I think that beauty should be fun! It should create joy. It doesn’t need to be too serious. For some who have an aversion to all things physical, maybe they’re taking it too seriously.”

 

Kelly's Resources for Beauty

The Magic Mit 

Hydro Peptide Cleanser

Hair Moisturizer

Tip for mamas: fix your hair at night instead of in the morning. Smaller curls can be done with a smaller curling iron that will brush into looser waves in the morning.

 

Kelly's Simple Joys

Having a bedtime routine

Apple watch synched to scroll through her photo album favorites

Cuddling with her English Bulldog named Butters

 

Connect with Kelly

 

SPONSORS

Episode 10 of the Journeywomen podcast is sponsored by White Pepper Ink, a custom-scripting canvas and wood company founded by Amanda Nicholson. You can find her work on Instagram and Facebook @whitepepperink. To custom order, email Amanda at whitepepperink@gmail.com and if you mention hearing about the shop on the Journeywomen podcast, you will get 10% off a canvas of your choice if you order through the second week of August. 


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ep.09 on mentoring

ep. 09 | Mentoring with Susie Davis

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with Susie Davis. Susie is an author, encourager and mentor. Every day, she wakes up and writes out things in her moleskin journals. And every day, she ends up somewhere on social media with words hoping to encourage us to love God more. The other thing that she can’t seem to escape is a God-given desire to reach out to the young women around her. She calls them her ‘dear daughters,’ which is also the name of her incredibly helpful podcast. Before our interview I didn’t personally know Susie, but she has mentored me from afar via her podcast for about a year. I’ve had some incredible chats with other mentors and friends on the show, but this one tops the chart as my favorite conversation to date! 

The phrase, “The difference between reality and expectation is misery,” that Susie shared has served me well since we recorded this show. I hope you guys have lots of other truth nuggets to pocket after listening to our conversation! As mentioned, you can find out how to connect with Susie at the links below. Be sure to drop by and let her know what you learned from listening to her responses to the questions below.

  1. Susie, for those who aren’t familiar with your writing, Dear Daughters or Austin Christian Fellowship can you explain a little bit about who you are and what you do?
  2. You’ve had such an influence on my life from afar. This is something that I’ve been wrestling through/processing as someone who is also putting themselves out there online. Can mentoring happen over the Internet? What are the potential pitfalls of seeking mentorship online or at a distance? What is the value in doing life-on-life relationships with other women in the body of Christ? 
  3. I want to speak about this as respectfully as possible, but I feel like I can see a crisis in our churches of younger women desiring to be discipled by older women, but not being able to really find older women who are willing to, or maybe it’s not an issue of willingness, but more-so a fear of inadequacy, to spiritually invest in the lives of younger women. Can you speak to those of us who are younger and help us know how to encourage older women that they have so much to offer? And can you speak to the older woman who might desire to pour out, but doesn’t know where to start?
  4. What are the most important elements of mentoring? 
  5. For someone who hasn't ever been discipled or made disciples, how would you suggest they begin learning/developing those tools?
  6. Do you have any go-to lessons that you walk through with your disciples? If so, what are they? 
  7. I loved the podcast you recorded with your daughter about healthy boundaries. Can we go there? I’d love to hear about how you intentionally set boundaries with your daughters in your relationships, especially when they left for college and were married? How did the dynamics of your relationship change? And your role as their primary source of discipleship?
  8. On the flip side, what kind of boundaries have you had to set personally as a disciple-maker? (In regard to time, relational energy, etc.) 
  9. How do you move forward, not paralyzed in fear, when you have failed a disciple?
  10. How has discipleship changed you personally (both in being a mentor and in being mentored)? 

 

Three Questions I ask Every Guest

1.  What 3 resources would you recommend for someone wanting to develop as a disciple or as a mentor? (This could be a recommended experience, book, podcast, conference, behavior, etc)

2.   What are 3 of your simple joys?

3.   Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus? 

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“The difference between reality and expectation is misery.”

“In-between reality and expectation is just misery. If we have the expectation that our lives will always be beautiful, pleasant, and positive, we will be miserable. We need to live in reality. Reality is that there are beautiful things in your life right now. And there are also equally difficult things in your life right now. And that is your one, beautiful life with Jesus.”

“We live in the lopsided favor of God. As his dear daughter, it is my responsibility and my joy to reflect on those things in my life. That’s really where I try to live, on the Good News side of things. Does that mean that I don’t have dark days? No. Will you hear about that in different places like my church, small group, or around my table? You’ll hear about the more intimate details of my life in those spaces more than in my blog post or on my Instagram feed. That makes sense, because you’re taking a step towards intimacy."

“The best tool for discipleship that I’ve found is a question.”

“Discipleship, mentorship, whatever you want to call it, is just meeting with someone and asking a question, then listening with curiosity and as much empathy and creativity as you can muster. Genuinely listen to another person and then ask another question. Let the mentee discover what God is saying in their life. It’s not so much me speaking into another person, but me asking questions and letting them see where they are with him.” 

Examples of questions Susie uses in discipleship:’
“What’s your God story?”
“What was your first impression of God?”
“What was the last time you felt like you heard from God?”

“Asking questions is like a dance. If the music is too fast, slow it down. If it’s too slow, get something a little more upbeat on.”

Susie’s elements of discipleship: question asking, script-less listening, and as the leader, making sure that the conversation doesn’t stall out in a lie or in a place of desolation. 

“Will (Susie’s husband) always tells me that you have to leave 5-10% open for the Holy Spirit. I can’t plan notes for the entire time I’m speaking. I need to plan less and trust that the Holy Spirit will speak to me and that he’ll speak what needs to be spoken. I’m not center stage! God is. When God is center stage we’ve got to improv. We may have an idea of the way a night is going to go and the script we’ll use, but the truth is that it’s like turning the lights on on stage, inviting the actors to come on, and then watching the dialogue change, knowing that God is the director the entire time. Trust that he is directing the conversation through you and through the way someone answers.”

For someone who wants to be discipled: “Look where you live. This usually means you should find someone in your local church. Start asking God to give you eyes to see who around you might be someone that you can go to coffee with, go on a walk with, or something like that. They don’t have to be like 20 years older than you, they can be 5 years older than you, they can be like a big sister to you.” 

“God seems to choose the curriculum for me. I can choose an area of study, but very often God has a curriculum that I am unaware of. I come into that little classroom and I have no idea what he’s up to. He’s very faithful to be clear in his teaching with me. He’s very persistent and patient, like the best kind of teacher you could ever ask for.”

“If you are wanting to make disciples, please, please… just look around. There are so many heartbreak stories going on right now. You don’t have to have your own daughter to help a daughter. You don’t have to be that person’s mother in order to mother spiritually. There are a lot of women who need spiritual mentoring and who need mothering… They don’t need someone who is perfect, but available.” 

“When I meet with a girl, I don’t expect her to meet my needs. In the same way I don’t expect my daughters to meet my needs when I meet with them.” 

“I’ve felt the pressure with my own kids trying to be the perfect mom. The grace of it all is that I DID screw up and that we still have a relationship. It doesn’t even stop when they’re adults! Now I have blessed in-laws. So guess what? I had a conversation with all of them and said, ‘I love you all, I know I’ll mess up, and I’m asking for us to be as authentic as we can be with each other. We’ll be in counseling if we need to be and we will talk about things. You just need to tell me.’ That all applies to a discipleship relationship. Will I mess up? Yes! Will I say the wrong thing or encourage them to do the wrong thing? Possibly! Every time I meet with a girl I say to them, “If none of this makes sense, toss it out. If you leave my house and none of it makes sense, please don’t follow my advice. I trust God in you to supersede anything I’ve said. The Holy Spirit is your teacher. You have to go in knowing that you, as the disciple maker, are broken and messed up, so there’s a real strong chance that you will do something to hurt your disciple, event though it’s never your intention.” 

“We need to live in reality, because in between reality and expectation is misery.” 

“I think about boundaries because my life goal is to love the Lord God with all my heart, soul, mind and strength, and guess what? That’s what I want for my family too… Mothering is just releasing and starting over in every season. Hopefully it’s transferring wisdom to one segment of your relationship to the next. With my girls and my son, the reality is that their relationship with their spouses is supposed to supersede their relationship with me and their love for me.” 

 

Susie’s Resources for Discipleship

Dear Daughters Podcast Episode with Emily on Mother-Daughter Relationships

The Bible

Dallas Willard’s Books

Things to deepen your personal growth

Being around truth-telling people

Podcasts like Dear Daughters

 

Susie’s Simple Joy’s

Morning

Black cup of coffee with one egg

Pink geraniums

Watching the hummingbirds on the salvia

Having a happy hour with a girlfriend

Her kids

 

Connect with Susie

 

 

sponsors

Episode 09 of the Journeywomen podcast is sponsored by White Pepper Ink, a custom-scripting canvas and wood company founded by Amanda Nicholson.You can find her work on Instagram and Facebook @whitepepperink. To custom order, email Amanda at whitepepperink@gmail.com and if you mention hearing about the shop on the Journeywomen podcast, you will get 10% off a canvas of your choice if you order through the second week of August 2017.


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ep.08 on grief

ep. 08 | Grief with René Bleakley

Today I’m interviewing René Bleakley, a college mentor from my time at the University of Arkansas. René is originally from South Carolina. She married her high school sweetheart, Gage, almost 44 years ago. They live near their son and his family in the Ft Bragg, North Carolina area. René says the best part of her life is the fact that she’s Mimi to three grandsons. She loves gardening, cooking, going to the beach and good coffee. I invited René to be on the show to discuss the topic of grief, as she lost her daughter in a car accident 21 years ago. We talked about her own process of grieving and she answered a lot of questions I had about how to come alongside someone who has experienced a trauma or crisis. I think you’ll find our conversation impactful and helpful. 

I’m so grateful for this conversation. One of my favorite things that René shared is to feel all the feels until they aren’t there anymore. That really encouraged me to press into grief with my friends who are experiencing hardship. Thanks so much for listening to the show. All of your feedback has been so encouraging! The most helpful thing you can do is to share the Journeywomen podcast with a friend. Send them over to Instagram to find me @hunterbeless or @journeywomenpodcast. I’m also on Twitter, Facebook, and of course, the show notes can be found at www.hunterbeless.com. I cannot wait to be with you all again next Monday! 

  1. Can you share with us a little about your own experience with grief?
  2. I’ve heard there are stages to grief. What did that process look like for you?
  3. Is grief something you still experience today? If so, how?
  4. What do you look back on and feel like you did well in the grieving process? What do you wish you would have done differently? 
  5. What was the most helpful thing you experienced from other believers in your time of grief?
  6. How can we, as the body of Christ, practically come alongside our brothers and sisters who are in a crisis?
  7. What are things you wanted to hear from friends? While I’m sure they weren’t intentional, were there things that people said that came across as hurtful?
  8. How would you encourage someone who is walking through trauma right now? How about someone that underwent a crisis long ago? What's a tender way to communicate care?
  9. What did your relationship with Jesus look like while you were walking through the stages of grief? 
  10. How did walking through crisis and allowing yourself to grieve change you?

 

Three questions I ask every guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend to someone who is grieving themselves OR walking alongside someone who is in that process?
  2. What are your 3 simple joys?
  3. As a journeywoman, who is the most impactful person in your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“It doesn’t help to not feel. Feel what you’re feeling until you don’t feel it anymore.” 

“From the very beginning I knew that He was good, that we could trust Him, and that He loved us. Those three principles stayed in my heart to help me navigate the really hard times when I felt like I was in the valley of the shadow of death. I know beyond my circumstances that God is good, that He is trustworthy, and that He loves me.”

“One of my favorite passages of Scripture is from Lamentations 3. It says, ‘Because of the Lord’s great love, we are not consumed. His mercies are new every morning. Great is Thy faithfulness.’ I would remind myself that He wouldn’t abandon me because He would be true to His Word. I leaned into that regardless of how I was feeling or thinking at the time. I leaned into the truth of who He is and trusted He would uphold me and take care of me.” 

“It’s okay to say, ‘Hey, I’m struggling to know what to do or say to you in the midst of this. If I can do anything for you right now, can I bring you a meal? Can I take you to lunch? Can I just sit on the sofa with you? Maybe we can go for a walk?’ My neighbor would come over once in awhile and we just sat on the sofa and talked. She didn’t try to fix me. I could see tears well up in her eyes, but she didn’t try to offer a solution. She really made my grief journey a lot easier the first year or two just by her presence and willingness to sit and listen to my pain.” 

“It helped that people didn’t forget with Anna’s birthday rolled around, or at Christmas, or Thanksgiving. The first Christmas we had, we asked for help. We asked people to send us memories of Anna. That was the most precious thing we did.” 

“Remembering their birthdays and other special events is very honoring. Even being able to talk about it feels healthy and normal instead of feeling like you’re hiding some part of you.”

 

René’s Resources on Grief

Grief Share

Experiencing Grief by Dr. H. Norman Wright

A Grief Observed by C.S. Lewis

The Problem of Pain by C.S. Lewis

Journaling 

 

René’s Simple Joys

Her three grandsons

Talking with others who are grieving 

Anything that reminds her that God has given us creation to enjoy and delight in and how it speaks of His majesty and goodness.


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ep.07 on friendship

ep.07 | Friendship with Elizabeth Seifried

Today I’m chatting with my dearest friend, Elizabeth Seifried. Elizabeth is wife to Grant Seifried and mama to two little boys who are less than one year apart, Everett Brooks and Cooper Scott. For that reason alone, she is my hero. She celebrates the little things in life and loves her people deeply. I jokingly say that Elizabeth started discipling me in the ways of friendship our freshman year of college. I genuinely believe there’s no better person to share with us all how to do friendship well. If you enjoy our conversation today, you should download episode 2 of the Journeywomen podcast so that you can hear from another lifelong friend of ours, Sarah Scott Pape, as she shares on the topic of evangelism. Finally, shout out to Sarah’s brother, Jake Scott of Tossing Copper, for letting me use the tunes you hear in the intro. What can I say, it takes a village. Thanks for joining us! If you enjoyed the show, make sure to find me @hunterbeless or @journeywomen podcast on Instagram or Facebook. It’d be amazing if you could take time to write a review so we can connect with other women on their journeys to glorify God!

There are so many things I could say about my chat with Elizabeth, but I think my biggest takeaway was Elizabeth’s encouragement to press into friendship with Jesus. Just like an earthly friend, our relationship with him requires commitment, vulnerability, intentionality, and trust. He is the perfect friend we can all look to as a model for friendship. The best thing is, we have the joy of experiencing that with him today! John tells us that this is eternal life: knowing the only true God and Jesus Christ, whom he has sent. I hope you delight in that today, my friends. Thanks for listening! I’m already looking forward to our time together next week!

  1. What is friendship? What’s the Biblical backing for friendship?
  2. How does friendship relate to your spirituality? 
  3. If you had to give some fundamental pillars of friendship, what would they be? (Maybe something like service, intimacy, devotion, etc)
  4. What are some practical ways you can deepen a friendship? (Shared experiences, celebrating one another, serving one another, seeking to know them and be known by them, etc)
  5. Before we move on: are there any disclaimers or things to beware of when you’re pursuing deep friendships with other people? 
  6. What about friendship transitions? How have your friendships changed in the transitions from high school to college, college to working, working to marriage, marriage to motherhood, etc? 
  7. For the married folks: what tips do you have for cultivating friendships with other married couples? 
  8. What are some ways that married couples be friends with singles? 
  9. On the flip side, what are some ways singles can pursue friendship with married couples? How would you suggest someone who is single pursue you as a friend in your current season as a mother? 
  10. How do you handle conflict in friendship?
  11. How has friendship, in general (not just ours), changed you?

 

Three questions I ask every guest

  1. What are your top 3 recommendations for someone who wants to grow in friendship with another person? These can be books, experiences, podcasts, whatever! 
  2. What are your 3 simple joys?
  3. As a journeywoman, who has had the greatest impact in your own journey with Jesus? 

 

Note Worthy Quotes

Elizabeth’s Five Pillars for Friendship: 

  • Commitment
  • Vulnerability
  • Intentionality
  • Trust
  • Selflessness
    *Note that Elizabeth says these can differ for everyone.

“So much about friendship comes down to expectations. I think that even when it comes to commitment, if those expectations are different, that’s where potential conflict arises.” 

“A disappointment is only a failed expectation. If someone finds themselves disappointed by someone’s lack of commitment, it may be that their expectations are simply different.”

“As friendships grow and as shared experiences take place vulnerability will continue to deepen… I think that’s a healthy thing, because guarded hearts in a friendship make it hard to experience growth.” 

“Trust is given, not earned. I think that’s something you offer to someone until they prove they shouldn’t be given it.”

"There are so many ways to deepen a friendship. People long to be cared for. God designed us for relationship. You even say it, ‘Life is a journey we were never meant to walk alone, we all need friends along the way.’ If we are looking to walk in friendship with someone we need to look for ways to show people that we care for them. People need that.” 

“There are experiences that need to be shared, events that need to be celebrated. Service is a huge piece of that. Be a student of your friends. Learn what makes them thrive, crumble, come alive, what annoys them, what things they enjoy. What kind of environments can they dream in? What do they dream about? It’s important to be a learner of your friends. Once you’ve learned those things you can press into them and offer them in a way that shows you care. That’s what we’re all looking for.” 

“If you already have a friendship that you’re looking to deepen, study God’s Word together!”

“Friendship isn’t about being happy. But there is joy in walking with people and in serving people in a way in which you’re seeking their happiness and growth with Jesus. When that’s a focus it takes our eyes off of ourselves and offers a practical way to deepen a friendship.” 

“Friendship in it’s perfect form is about walking with people as they walk towards Jesus. If we’re made for community and God has designed us to walk alongside other people, yet while we’re here we can spur each other on to look more like Jesus, isn’t that what we’re doing here?” 

“The Gospel is offensive. It’s offensive to our humanness. Our humanness is not selfless. It’s selfish. If I continue to walk in myself, which I do, because I’m a fallen person, yes, saved by grace and thankful for that, but I need people to confront me.”

“The biggest part of transitioning seasons in friendship is to put forth effort to understand and communicate care on both sides.” 

“Ask God for a friend. And if you’re in a season of major loneliness, God can be a really precious friend. His faithfulness beat’s anybody’s faithfulness. His intentionally beats anybody’s on earth. The way he gives surprises, the way he speaks ‘Hey, I love you and you’re not alone,’ he does that in ways that humans cannot. That sounds so cheesy, but I’ve seen God be a very near and dear confidant and counselor in seasons where I’ve felt very isolated. He’s good at that and he knows what we need better than another person can. Ask him to show you the way he can personally love you. And ask him for a friend. And if you’ve been asking for a friend for years, don’t stop.” 

 

Elizabeth’s Resources for Friendship

Think of 3 people who you would consider your closest friends and physically make a list of why and how they are a good friend to you. Compare them with one another. You’ll probably see the themes or pillars that you value in friendship. Go and model that selflessly and without reciprocation. You’ll be surprised how much more engaged in friendship you’ll become because you’re actively pursuing other people.

Practice being selfless and seeking out other people in that way, but by doing that through what you value. Put yourself in a place who aren’t exactly like you and make a friend. Go into that situation with the expectation of asking all the questions, but not being asked anything in return.

Learn to experience the highs and lows with people. 

 

Elizabeth’s Simple Joys

Clean sheets and shaved legs

A Saturday morning with her people

Watching her oldest, Everett, learn to walk 

 

connect with ELIZABETH


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ep.06 on relating to your emotions

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ep.06 | Relating to Your Emotions 

with Amy Waters

 

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I’m interviewing Amy Waters, a Licensed Professional Counselor, Women’s Bible Study leader, disciple maker, and self-proclaimed theology junkie.  Amy spent nearly 10 years on staff at Pine Cove as a Conference Director and it was there that God gave her a passion for ministering to women and families.  She earned a Masters in Marriage and Family Counseling from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in 2011 and is currently counseling at the Alethia Counseling Center in Tyler, TX.  

Amy is married to Neil Waters and mommy to 4 year old Sam and 2 year old Elle (pronounced EL, like the letter).  Amy and Neil love to spend time working on home projects, camping, playing Frisbee, reading out loud to each other, and these days trying to catch sleep wherever they can find it.  When she’s not doing that, Amy can be found posting ridiculously cute pictures of their children on social media or pretending like she’s a chef in the Chopped kitchen. Both things I can attest to! 

Amy and I are discussing how we as women can relate to our emotions. I’ve been planning this interview since the idea for the Journeywomen podcast was born many months ago. To be honest, I felt really awkward coming off of this recording, but I listened to Amy and I’s conversation while editing I realized that my own discomfort stemmed from the fact that I personally struggle to relate to my emotions. Brooks and I live in a culture where emotion isn’t admonished and I think I’m a little out of touch with my emotions these days. My chat with Amy was enlightening, helpful, and challenging. I hope it’s as helpful for you as it was for me!

I want to say a few thank you’s: first of all, thank you for all of your positive reviews! I’ve been reading every single DM, email, and text from ya’ll and I so appreciate the feedback. At one point last week Journeywomen was the third podcast in the Christian category on iTunes! The only explanation is that God’s showing off AND ya’ll are super gracious. Thanks for sharing it with friends! If you haven’t taken time to leave a review, please do! 

Last but not least, a huge thanks to Jake Scott of Tossing Copper for letting me use the tunes you hear in the intro background! Download Dancing in the Dawn on iTunes for your perfect windows-down, hair blowing in the wind, summer jam. 

Amy and I cover the following questions in our conversation on relating to your emotions:

1. What are emotions? Why do you think God gave them to us?

2. Is there any distinction between good/bad emotions? Would there ever be a reason to try not to feel a certain way?

3. Why is it important for us to learn to appropriately relate to our emotions?

4. Scripture says the heart is deceitful above all else. Does that mean we can't ever trust our emotions? When can we trust them??

5. How can we process through emotions when they feel overwhelming?

6. How can we be gracious with those who feel more intensely than we might feel?

7. If you could give someone steps by which to process through emotions, what would it be??

8. What if we're struggling to feel? Like, we don't feel at all? Is that bad?

9. What are good boundaries regarding sharing and processing emotions with our spouses and friends? What indications might we look for when we’ve crossed over the line and encouraged our brothers or sisters to sin?

10. How can we help our kids relate to their emotions?

 

Three questions I ask every guest

1. What are your top 3 resources for those learning to relate to their emotions?

2. What are your three simple joys?

3. Who is the most influential person in your own journey with Jesus? 

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“Being emotional doesn’t necessarily have to be a bad thing. As in all things that God’s given us, what we do with emotions is where it becomes a matter of sin or not sin.” 

“Emotions are a relational vehicle. When we have emotions it has to do with how we experience something: our body’s response to something and how we express that. It’s almost always connected to how we’re relating to ourself, to God, or to other people. So, emotions can cause a lot of relational trouble for people. Especially when you have two people experiencing the same event in different ways. Finding a way to have unity there can be very difficult. For the person who is more deeply driven by emotion, they can find themselves being on a ride. And the people who love that person may feel like they’re being taken on a ride too.” 

“The heart is deceitful. And part of that is because we are selfish creatures. When we experience the world and the way we respond to that and how we express that is often going to be completely connected to the self. It’s very easy to be selfish with our emotions, but they can’t be 100% bad. God emotes. We are made in his image we are made made to reflect back to him and even God himself emotes and using emotional language to relate to us.”

“Emotion is morally neutral. In fact, God gives them to us and they can be a vehicle for reflecting God’s image back to him. This is a little bit of what God is like. But we’re sinful, so we don’t do that perfectly. It can also become a place where we’re selfish, sinful, misunderstanding, or abusive. As believers, we can’t throw out the baby with the bath water saying, ‘Because I’ve entered into sin through the vehicle of emotion, I’m not going to emote anymore.’ Rather, we have to say, ‘God gave me emotion and he also feels emotions, so how can I use emotion to glorify God and how can I relate to my emotions in such a way that exercises faith?’”

“We have to remember, there’s not a revolution or revival or anything that hasn’t happened with great passion. People don’t lay down their lives where they feel nothing.” 

“We live out the world in relationship to ourselves, in relationship to other people, and in relationship to God. To think our emotions are only in isolation is very naive. The way we feel is going to come into play when we relate to God and it’s going to come into play when we relate to other people. All my married girls say, ‘Amen?!’” 

“I need to learn to relate to my emotions because I can’t worship without them. That’s part of what worship is. Of course we worship in Truth; we don’t check our brains at the door, but how could I worship without some level of emotion?” 

“To not express emotions doesn’t mean I don’t have them.” 

“Give yourself time to contemplate and identify your emotions. Confess them, pour out your heart out to God and to trusted, believing friends. There is an element of confession with our emotions that is healthy and good. We also need to make sure our emotions are being led by the Truth. When you read through 1 Peter you see the idea of being sober-minded… How do I let Truth lead my emotions rather than letting my emotions lead the Truth?” 

Amy’s ABC’s of emotions:

A - Activator: an event
B - Belief: what you believe about the event
C - Consequence: what do I feel and what is the behavioral response
D - Dealing —> rather than dealing search out whether or not the belief is true

“There seems to be this idea that I can tell my heart what to feel. That takes discipline and work, especially for the person just by wiring that is more emotional than logical.” 

“We want to be very careful to not let even a righteous anger be a vehicle for sin.” 

Regarding parenting: “Listen first, hear first, empathize first, then we have permission to teach, guide, and train. As parents we’re so worried about teaching and training them that we often forget to empathize with them. We don’t want to do one at the exclusion of the other. We don’t want to become the parent who only relates and doesn’t teach, train, or guide. This is another area where grace must abound. If I have a hard time knowing how to engage with my own emotions, how can I expect my four, five or six year old to know how to do that?”

Regarding parenting:“Empathy doesn’t mean we need to change our direction.”

“Allow grace and truth to infiltrate even this area (relating to your emotions) of your life. And to remember too that this is a journey. You’re not the same woman today that you were ten years ago. And ten years from now you’ll look back and see where God has brought you. So, you don’t have to fix all the things right now.” 

 

Amy’s Resources

Every Woman’s Battle by Shannon Ethredge

Lies Women Believe and the Truth That Sets Them Free by Nancy Lee DeMoss

When the Darkness Doesn’t Lift How to Fight for Joy by John Piper

A Grief Observed by C.S. Lewis

The Psalms

 

Amy’s Simple Joys

Cooking in the her exceptionally well crafted kitchen (shout out to Neil!)

A cup of coffee with a good friend

Playing with her babies

 

Connect with Amy


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ep.05 on discipleship

ep.05 | Discipleship with Katelyn Sullins

Today I’m interviewing my friend Katelyn Sullins on the topic of discipleship. Katelyn is a pursuer of delight, cultivating reflections of the God in whom it is found. She lives in Tyler, TX with her husband, Tyler, who is a counselor and her precious dog, River. Katelyn is the current Forge Women’s director at Pine Cove. I’ve watched her make disciples in a variety of contexts and know that we all have a lot to learn from her. This is one of my favorite topics in all the world and I can't wait to share our chat with you today! As always, thanks for listening! 

I get so fired up talking about discipleship and have absolutely experienced what Katelyn was talking about when she said that discipleship is a mutual transformation. I left this conversation inspired to continue pursuing discipleship relationships both as a disciple and disciple maker. If you want to learn more from Katelyn, be sure to follow her on social media at the handles listed in the show notes. 

On another note, ya’ll blew me away with your receptivity to the launch last week! Thank you for submitting reviews and sharing the show with friends. That’s truly the most helpful thing you can do to help the Journeywomen Podcast! I really appreciate it. Looking forward to being with you guys again next Monday! Follow along throughout the week @journeywomenpodcast on Facebook or Instagram. See you guys next week! 

  1. Tell us about your job and how it enables you to make disciples. 
  2. Before we get any further -- what is discipleship? 
  3. When were you introduced to the idea of making disciples? What has been your most potent lesson in disciple making? (Whether that's from having been discipled yourself, or from practicing making disciples.)
  4. Is there a difference between formal discipleship and general discipleship? Is it important for us to submit ourselves to a mentor/disciple/maker? Why? Or why not? 
  5. Are there any prerequisites for a disciple maker? Would you suggest knowing the mentor/mentee for awhile before defining your relationship?
  6. Do you have any go-to lessons that you're trying to walk through with your disciples?
  7. What are the most important elements of discipleship? 
  8. What are some of your favorite tools for discipleship? 
  9. For someone who hasn't ever been discipled or made disciples, how would you suggest they begin learning/developing those tools?
  10. How has discipleship changed you?

 

3 Questions I ask every guest:

  1. What are your top 3 discipleship resources? (IG accounts, books, groups, podcasts, whatever!)
  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?
  3. Who has had the biggest influence in your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes:

"Discipleship is a relationship with a learner who is following to be like his leader. Not just to know what his leader knows, but to be as his leader is. For us, discipleship to Jesus is a direct adherence to the person of Christ in as many ways as you can."

"James K. Smith: “A re-habituation of loves.” As we learn to follow Christ in a way that makes us like him, we are going to have to love with he loves. And in order to actually do that, I’m going too have to change my habits and what I’m actually doing."

"I was exposed to discipleship before I knew what it actually was. All of life we are looking to people to follow and imitate. We have no idea that as we follow someone that we might become like them. We were created to be in intimate community with one another. It makes sense that the Lord called us to do things together and to make disciples because it’s within our design to do things together and to imitate others."

"I remember things my parents did all growing up that were them taking really teachable moments that could have been preached to anyone in that position, but because they knew me, they used that specific moment to direct my heart towards Christ."

"If you ask me, 'What are the most important things in disciple-making?' I would say, 'Stop. Are you following Christ? What are you doing in your life to make sure you’re completely consumed by the affection of what Jesus has done for you on your behalf on the cross. THEN we can talk about what it looks like moving forward.'"

"Discipleship is a mutual transformation, absolutely."

"How do you know when you’re ready to make a disciple? Do you follow Jesus? If so, you’re ready to make a disciple."

"In order to make a disciple, you need to be a disciple your self. That’s it."

"In terms of principle lessons that are go-to’s when you’re making a disciple, those evolve and change, because you’re making disciples as a product of what it looks like for you to follow Christ. So the more you’re learning, the more you’re changing in what you’re pouring out."

"The first three times I’m meeting with a girl, we’ll do nothing but get to know each other. It’ll look like me exploring her for as much as I can possibly unfold. I want to know about her family, her heritage, where she came from, what the home she grew up in was like. That tells me so much about her. I want to know what other people in her family are like. I ask about her passions, her hopes, her dreams, her heartbreaks. I don’t even have a list, but as much as you can explore a person to simply get to know them as a best friend, because that builds relational capital in order for you to move forward where they even have a reason to listen to your feedback, because they have to know that you care. That’s where I start."

"What is that I personally need to see about myself that’s hindering me from following the Lord? The first go-to lesson is to somehow help them understand their design and who the Lord made them to be. Anything that can get us to see what makes their heart beat fast, what they love and what they hate, so that I can take all that, wrap it up in a pretty bow and present it to them in the form of feedback and present it to them." 

"Along with talking about identity, the second pillar would be faith or fear. Show me you’re afraid of and I will show you the things that you worship. Our life is ordered behind keeping whatever it is that gives us that security. That has become our god. So much of our behavior is directed at and towards that. Knowing this will help us deconstruct a person and get down to the bare bones."

"For someone who is insecure about making disciples: Discipleship is a lifelong process. I hope that I am continually hit in the face with “Man, I didn’t know that about myself!” or “I knew that and I thought I was over it, but here I am right back again.” Give yourself the time and the grace to not know, understand, or be perfect. If you’re making disciples that’s what they need to see in their disciple-maker. That is is not about how you have it all together or that you understand this. They need to see what it’s like to follow Jesus in the midst of confusion and trust the he is enough regardless of how we can explain our theology of obedience. One: just take a chill pill and give yourself some time and two: there are a lot of great resources available to you."

"My most life altering lessons had less to do with what they were doing or teaching, but how they were leading me."

"Discipleship changed me because it revealed the massive mountain that is and was my sin. And at the same time, it made that sin look so small in the face of the Lord’s grace and love because of his massive plan to rescue his people." 

 

Katelyn's Recommended Resources

The Handbook to Prayer Kenneth Boa

Reading the Gospels: look to Jesus as the ultimate disciple-maker and to the disciples for examples of ourselves

The Great Omission by Dallas Willard

The Cost of Discipleship by Dietrich Bonhoeffer

You are What You Love by James K.A. Smith

 

Katelyn’s Simple Joys

Clear American Sparkling Water

A Proper Theology of Sex (we’ll have to have Katelyn back on the show to discuss this topic!)

Hunter’s Grandma’s Bread Starter/Making Bread

 

Connect with Katelyn


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ep.04 on bible study

ep.04 | Bible Study with Amy Ward

Today I’m chatting with Amy Ward, an empty nester, cancer survivor, writer, professional crafter and—today’s focus—a lover of truth and teacher of the Bible! Amy and her husband live in Columbus, GA, which is where I connected with her a few of years back. She taught me so much about studying the Bible and how to communicate it’s truths to other women! I could not be more excited to share our conversation about Bible study and teaching with ya’ll!

Amy and I cover the following questions in our conversation on Bible study:

  1. Tell me a little about your relationship with the Bible. When did you first begin to love it? How has your study developed over the years? Who taught you how to study?
  2. What encouragement would you offer to busy mamas who are up all hours of the night, tired, and who don't have much time to study the Bible? Does studying the Word look different in different seasons of life? What are some creative ways to incorporate studying the Word during a busy day with your children/spouse? 
  3. Tell me about the process and how it developed for you. Some people feel like it’s cumbersome. How did you develop the skill of studying the Bible?  
  4. What would you say to a sister who believes she's using a good method of study, but her time in the word seems flat? Is she doing something wrong? 
  5. Why is continued study of the Word important? How does it impact us practically?

 

Three questions I ask every guest:

  1. What are the top three resources you'd recommend for Bible Study?

  2. What are your three, simple joys?

  3. Who was the most influential person in your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note worthy quotes:

“What does this text say? What does this text mean? Who is writing this? What are they saying? Who are they writing to? What’s the context in this author’s realm of influence? Where are these people living? Why is he writing to them there? Where is he writing from? etc. You just begin really observing the text. You’ll find that you’ll read the text so many times in observation.”

“If you’re a young mom and you’ve got babies taking a nap or you’re up with a sick baby at night, grab your phone that has the Bible app and begin to read, maybe even reading it aloud to the baby, whether it’s midnight, three in the morning, or while they’re taking a nap. Read the text, then begin to hone in on one chapter at a time. Read it, then you read it again.”

“Ideally we would be able to sit down for six hours straight, but babies are going to need their diapers changed, meals need to be prepared, you need to do housework and laundry and go to the grocery store. You just have to make it work to the best of your ability. Don’t compare yourself to anyone next to you. Just do what you can do with the time that God allows you.”

“Pray: help me understand it. Help me apply it. Move it from my head to my heart to my hands.”

“It’s okay if you can’t read 15 chapters in a day or if you can’t even read 5 verses. Just go at the pace you can and don’t beat yourself up.”

“A lot of times application comes via conviction of the Holy Spirit. You see how someone rejoices over pain or trial and you think to yourself, ‘Wow, when was the last time I rejoiced in a trial in my own life?’ but more than that even rejoicing in His care for you and His knowledge that this would be a circumstance in your life that doesn’t surprise Him, but He’s blessing you with it so that He’s allowing you to turn and trust in Him in the midst of the hardship. That’s the epitome of rejoicing to me. Those applications come as you’re observing.”

“The middle piece, interpretation, can be difficult for some people, because that’s where you have the ability to do some cross referencing and chase rabbit trails. The interp really allows you to understand, ‘What does this text mean?’”

“Not every word is a key word, not every phrase is a key phrase, and depending on our circumstances some words may mean more to us than they do to our sister, depending on what they’re going through.”

“When you’re learning anything new, you have to give yourself a lot of grace, a lot of room to learn, and a lot of room for practice.”

“If you’re too focused on the method than the message, then stop.”

“Generally when you’re doing an inductive study and you’re trying to hone in on the 5w’s and an h you want to mark/highlight the things that set them apart, so that when you go back you can easily see where you need to dig a little deeper.”

“At first you’re flying over many miles above the terrain and then you lower the plane and get a little closer, then you land the plane and you really begin to see the geographic setting of where you are. That’s the whole point of inductive. You begin at one point, you observe, interpret, and apply.”

“None of us are born knowing how to study the Bible. None of us are born knowing how to read. Like any skill worth it’s investment you have to invest your time, make it a priority, and be intentional. That means setting aside the time, getting supplies to help you figure things out, and making it a priority.” 

“Inductive enables you to observe the text and allow the text to interpret the text. So many good Bible studies out there have so much conjecture and so many personal stories involved in the telling of something you may have read in your Bible, but it’s really all about the author’s life, story, or interpretation that it dissolves what the Holy Spirit is wanting you to see. Sometimes we end up reading a book about the Bible instead of reading the Bible. Some studies that we find on the Internet or in Christian bookstores are well meaning, but I do think so often we have a tendency in our consumer society to want to consume what someone else has studied as opposed to Inductively studying the text for the text for yourself. Looking straight at Scripture and really allowing the Holy Spirit, the Resident Tutor who resides in a believer, to open your eyes and to see things in a fresh light.”

“Mountaintops and valleys are part of our Christian life. We need the valleys to appreciate the mountain top. Dry times in the Word are valleys. They won’t last forever. I would encourage a sweet sister who feels like God is distant not to give up, but to talk with the Lord about how she feels. There’s a passage in Psalm 51 and he says, ‘Restore to me the joy of your salvation.’ I cannot tell you the number of times I have prayed that one little sentence in my walk with the Lord and it always refers to my time in the Word with Him.”

“There’s no magic formula or spell. I can’t say that the next day my sister who is feeling dry will wake up and feel alive, but I will encourage her to be in a dialogue with the Lord about how she feels, asking Him to be really present in the dryness.”

“Until we take our last breath God is not done with us and every season of life that we go through affords us new opportunities to learn. We’re not done growing in our walk with Christ no matter how old we are. If we feel like we can study the word for five years and then we’re good, we’re fooling ourselves.”

 

Amy’s Recommended Resources

Women of the Word by Jen Wilkin

Discover the Bible for Yourself by Kay Arthur

ESV Study Bible

NISB Study Books by Precepts Ministries  

Lord Teach Me How to Study the Bible in 28 Days

Treasuring Christ When Your Hands are Full by Gloria Furman

 

Amy’s Simple Joys

A cool breeze (a rarity in Georgia)

Fresh herbs for cooking (flat leaf parsley, basil, and rosemary)

The end of the day front porch review with her hubby

 

Amy’s Fav Office Supplies

A pretty binder

Crayola erasable, twistable colored pencils set of 12

She Reads Truth Study Books

 

Note: If they use a workbook such as She Reads Truth for their notebook, which is great, take it to an office supply store and have them make it into a spiral bound book that lays flat. They could have them add blank printer paper into the end of the book or a sheet or two at the end of each week for extra paper needs they may have. 

 

 

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